Tarun ji, I think you miss a point here. Of course, everyone is welcome to Maharashtra; but, having been welcomed, she/he should mix well with the local population. The key for a good mix is the language. The problem with many Uttar Hindusthanis (UH) is that they refuse to learn Marathi even when deciding to make their career, and livelihood, in Maharashtra. Not only would they not speak Marathi, they would agressively insist that two Marathi persons should converse in Hindi in their presence as they (UH) would not understand the langauage. That is simply not acceptable anymore ! It is high time the UH adopt to this simple expectation of Maharashtrians.
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by pradeep kumar on Feb 15, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
Dear friend suppose you goto France and if two people there talk in french then u would also ask them to speak in lang which u know....its as simple as that......use some brainsss
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by manish kalia on Feb 15, 2008 03:50 PM Permalink
Vivek ji Did the MNS workers who burnt the Bus in Nasik asked the people whether they can speak marathi? If knowing marathi is so important then why marathi medium schools are getting closed year after year in Mumbai?
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by Peaceful Protest on Feb 15, 2008 03:31 PM Permalink
all the others you are saying do not come in open....they are employers...sit in their cabin...no harm...
the UH actually are on street and affect common man..
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by Mahesh Gokhale on Feb 15, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
yeah...very true..please remember this is possible ONLY in Maharashtra....try teaching these things in Chennai... will you please dare to do this ?
If parents/Govt in UP Bihar know..their next gen gonna work in Maharahtra...why do not they add language marathi in thier curriculam?? Or atleast they should be given some cultural oeientaion about maharashra... 1.DO not eat paan n spit on road. 2.Do no use rail tracks for morning activities/ 3.Do not break traafic signal. 4. DO not open roadside shops 5. do not sleep n live on platform 6.do not built slums around ciy 7. do not leak water lines 8. do not have illigal water , electricity connections 9. do not attain political raliies..
its so simple..then their next gen is well come to Mumbai n maharashtra
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by Ajay Mishra on Feb 15, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
Mr Prashant, I think u have not seen the real Mumbai 1. Just be a keen observer and check that how many outsiders are consuming tobacco in local trains and spitting it from the window on the platform. 2. Check that after mashing the tobacco along with "Chuna" how many of them throw it inside the compartment. 3.Regarding breaking traffic signals, these poor people dont own any vehicle (maybe cycle sometimes) so there is no question of breaking signals. 4. Travel in any ST bus and you will find that all people spit inside the bus along with the conductor which is a rare sight to see. 5. U can have illegal connections only if you give bribes to the persons who are working in these divisions. They are also equally responsible for it.
I have lots more but I just dont want to make u feel embarrased about it. May be the Govt of UP/Bihar should learn a lesson and try to increase job opportunities in their state to help these poor people so that they can earn their living. My head dropped in shame when I learnt that a pregnant lady was also made to flee from Nasik and she delivered a baby in a toilet of an Express Train. I hope this is not the culture we are looking out for in a democratic country like ours.
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by manish kalia on Feb 15, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
mr prashant
Maharastra state is number one 1. producing Gutka 2. consumption of Tobacco. 3. You will find pan wala shop at gate of every resturant in Mumbai, who is buying those PAN? 4. travel in any red box called ST you will who spit more.
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by Ritu Goyal Harish on Feb 15, 2008 03:30 PM Permalink
You are so small in ur thinking. Is language everything? If so, then why have u adopted English? Stop speaking the language and communicating in it.
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by Asheesh Sinha on Feb 15, 2008 04:00 PM Permalink
learning or not learning a language is my personal business. If i really wish, i would learn the local language. But if i dont, and I know a common language then I dont see a need of violence to make me learn it..
I have a question, if I was a mute person, could I stay anywhere in India? coz i wont be speaking any language then
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by prashant suryawanshi on Feb 15, 2008 03:50 PM Permalink
These stars actually adding value to our state.. ppl like them are always welcome/
but ppl who spit on road, live in slums, sells rediculas stuff on footpath are not acceptable
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by sehil on Feb 15, 2008 04:17 PM Permalink
haha good excuse becuase if u ask them(amit shahrukh) to speak in marathi they will laugh and kick ur as4s hard.
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by shalini verma on Feb 15, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
I dont see why there should be any compulsion to learn the local language and adopt the local culture when you move a certain state. this is the most rediculous thought, especially when a lot of the culture is archaic, and should have been discarded by the local community too!!
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by Viral on Feb 15, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
Dear Sir, I think the real issue is not abt the migrants being unable to speak the local language, it's abt how they are affecting the lives of existing occupants
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by chethan m on Feb 15, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Bangalore is the same case. Where other states people do business,Occupy all jobs ,But reject to speak ,respect locals in anyway. They bread and butter from this land, They want cauvery water But not kannada.
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by jayesh desai on Feb 15, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
Dear Mr. Vivek:
Your version is certainly contrary to national integration. What Raj Thakrey did is very akin to Jinnah's movement for a separate muslim country. Certainly, people should be encouraged to learn local language. Howevr, this should not be at the cost of livelihood for poor taxiwallah or pan wallah. India is one and we should not let politician divide it based on their vote bank politics. Educated people like you should not fall in such trap else we are again going back to the days of 1947.
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by sehil on Feb 15, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
what rubbish logic is this. i doubt u r a doctor or living in a stone age. how somebody can force u to speak hindi(its a lame logic) to hide ur insecurities. if they dont learn marathi then its their loss. why u should bother that they must learn marathi. why r u feeling so much of responsibility on ur weak shoulders. why dont u ask ur son/daughter to go for a doctatrate in marathi language. that will be the true tribute to marathi culture.
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by Adi Adi on Feb 15, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
idiots ..All Maharashtrians who think so should be thrown out of India..u ppl are really backword.. Does Maharashtrians living in other states adopts other state's colture?? Should those Maharashtrians who don't know tamil sud be thrown out of TamilNadu and should those Maharashtrians be beaten up in public...All other states sud send Maharashtrians back to their beloved Maharashtra after taking all their money and property...
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by prashant suryawanshi on Feb 15, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
ADI , you should be greaful n not arrogant you are getting bread n butter here
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by sehil on Feb 15, 2008 04:13 PM Permalink
who the hell r u prashant. why r u feeling so much of social responsibility on ur weak shoulder. its just to hide from real problems of ur life. even after this bull shit u will remain same frustrated prashant. only raj is going to gain some political space. why r u spoiling the marathi culture. ye sab kya hai bete prashant . please write ur messages in marathi.
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by Adi Adi on Feb 15, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
see who are talking about namak haraam..we eat Indian namak not of Maharashtra's kadi ;) .why dont u ppl make seprate country ..we are indian ok...not Maharashtrian, Tamilan,kannad...And tamil ppl are not idiots like Maharashtrian thats why they have made Rajnikant super hero...you have only one example Rajnikant i can give you lakhs of example of Maharashtrian who are staying in other states...
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by aatyeuka on Feb 15, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
Yes,I agree to Vivek fully...Tarunji,any normal Maharashtrian would never separate you alone.That's not Maharashtra's culture.You would agree that...but what about those who are not getting gelled in local culture?if you say as long as they are Indians it does not matter which language they speak,then I would go beyond this and say-as long as they are humans it does not matter.This way we would even welcome Bangladeshish...because as per teaching given by Sant Dnyaneshwar,we believe in Vishwa-Bandhutva. Every rational person has to agree this-you can not and should not stay in a land without mixing with it...may be it Mumbai,Maharashtra,India,US or planet earth.
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by pradeep kumar on Feb 15, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
The thing is that u people are afraid of others caz they r more intelligent than u and u cant get past them....u want everything on ur laps and mouth whereas these people from outside work hard therefore they are at high position not like u.......baap dada ki daulat.....
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by Asheesh Sinha on Feb 15, 2008 03:47 PM Permalink
People migrating from Bangladesh is unlawful. People moving from "Indian" northern part to Maharashtra isnt illegal. This is a simple fact that suddenly has been forgotten. I know a common language, English, and as far as gelling with others go, I can gel with others who speak English ( or Hindi if they would).
By the way IMO the reply to non-gelling cant be beating to death
