The mad mullahs in Malaysia even do not spare the dead bodies. Recently there was new about a woman of Indian origin harrassed on the death of her husband. While the authorties cliamed that he was a converted Muslim, the wife claimed that he had not converted. The authorities did not even allow the woman to give witness in the court saying that a kafir cannot give witness in the matter of a Muslim!!!!!!!!!!! What a great nation Malaysia is!!!!And ofcourse the last PM of Malaysia was ousted on corruption charges!!!!!!!!!! Turkey was some what liberal due their proximity to Europe and the good work of the late Mustafa Kemal.
The proof of pudding is in earting. We all are seeing the activities of the followers of "the religion of peace" the word over, day in and day out. Still you people have no shame in proclaiming that "Islam is a religion of peace" etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by salim on Feb 14, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
I am not saying we cant prove Quran or Islam Ofcourse we can All that I am saying we cant prove GOD as we prove theorems in science.. First tell mw what would make you belive in GOD? Once we define this testability we can proceed to debate..
RE:RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by JGN on Feb 14, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
I do not believe in any god. The god/gods were created by vested interests to befool the gullible masses.
The so-called holy books are creations of surrealistic visionaries and are no more serious than Gulliver's Travels or Aesop's Fables or Mullah Nasiruddin Stories.
RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by naqvi on Feb 14, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
Islam is the religion of Peace and its the truth. Try to understand it to know about it. As far as Malaysia and Turkey are concerned as I said before both these places are Muslim majority states wherein minorities have never come across any such atrocities as are witnessed frequently in India.( Whole page wont suffice if I start naming it) All I say is we Indians should come out of fanatic politics of hate and start working for betterment of ourselves and our country. We should channelize our energy towards out country progress instead of destruction. Bye for now as I leave the net. Thanks to you all.
RE:RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by JGN on Feb 14, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>Islam is the religion of Peace and its the truth..............the proof of pudding is in eating. And what a great scenario of the followers of the religion of peace we have in front of us!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by salim on Feb 14, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
MR JGN - I dont know how much you are aware of certain principles in debate.. First tell me what is the testability for the proof for the existence of GOD?? Testability and Falsification test are essential in defining any debate. The existence of GOD doesnt exactly fit into this paradigm. We can deduce and concluse the existence, we cant GOD prove as we prove in Maths or science
RE:RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by JGN on Feb 14, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>First tell me what is the testability for the proof for the existence of GOD..............do you believe in the existence of any god???????????
RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by salim on Feb 14, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
How can we procced to debate if we dont know what is the Testability criteria for the success or failure of the debate.. Tell me first what would make you belive in the existence of a GOD?? Then let us check whether such a proof can be guven or not..?
RE:@ Mr.naqvi
by secret on Feb 14, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
so you agree that GOD is an article of belief than of proof...in which case how logical it is to say there is only one god and he's ALLAH..??
all other non-believers in ALLAH are some kind of lesser mortals to be looted, raped and killed..??
