Its amazing Francois Gautier talks about all the ills but corners away from Pseudo Nationalist affairs of RSS which is for dividing and weakening the nation. Tell spade a spade Gautier or dont be selective.
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by arp on Feb 15, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Kuch jalne ki gandh aa rahi hai dear Patriot.Sach hamesa kadwa hota hai.Sach samjha karo.
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by Sincere Citizen on Feb 15, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
There goes the secular bandwagon blaming RSS, they just cant seem to correct their own faults. Keep blaming everyone else for the problems in the country. If we had no corrption, religious discrimination, castism none of the so called Hindu backlash would have happened. And RSS is not terrorist at all they do much better work compared to many high profile NGO's who get international help. So stop bashing RSS just because you think they are Hindu fundamentalist, your logic is not just flawed but seems like deliberate attempt to incite hatred.
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by Patriot on Feb 15, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
Talking about descrimination know about it from Muslims they are discriminated in all fields be it govt. jobs or anything else. Muslims are going backwards thanks to these discrimintory policies of the successive government. Check Sachar commitee report about the Muslim status which is in bottom heap while RSS parivar have only one point agenda that is hatred towards muslims. Thats the fact.
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by Sincere Citizen on Feb 15, 2008 12:51 PM Permalink
If the Muslims get proper education they get good jobs, I know because some of my friends have been Muslims and have been at good positions in govt. and public sector companies. As I said people who want to blame others will find any reasons yours is the same. As far as I know , I have never seen any educated,honest and resourceful person discriminated against in India. Exceptions happen and they are all over the world , but if you just point them to attack others you are guilty of inciting the divisions more than anyone else.
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by Patriot on Feb 15, 2008 01:02 PM Permalink
Muslims are taking the brunt of all terrorist attacks be it riotism , mass killings ,business houses looting etc. and you know well about divisive politics used by fundamentalist party. Which we all should be against if we really like India and if we want our Nation to be any greater.
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by Sincere Citizen on Feb 15, 2008 01:13 PM Permalink
You just cant stop playing victim can you ? well what you are saying is true for all not just Muslims. Sachar commitee report was politically motivated to deliberately create the divide. If we had proper education (not Madrassas) for most Muslims, they would be in jobs and not working for terrorists organisations.
Your logic comes around and tries to blame the so called "Hindu fundamentalist" while not pointing out that there are multiple terror organisations under the name of Islam as well as Communism. Hence your argument is pointed only against BJP/RSS and flawed in the sense that it is one sided and deliberate.
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by Supersecualirist on Feb 15, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
Is it Quranically alright for a Muslim to serve under a Kafir or a Kafir Government where the Muslims are in a minority? As far as the other comments are concerned, these are typical Muslim rantings to cover up the support given to Jihadis by the community.
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by arp on Feb 15, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
I am sad that in hinduism we see some caste problem in 21 st century and some leaders are happy with it.But i feel happy when some says that in ISLAM and Xcian there is no caste all are same.It feel good also.But u see out pliticians are again playing the same card in muslin and xcian community.It ia bad.Reservation sud provide to poorest ppl from any community not for creamy layer.
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by Patriot on Feb 15, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
@arp Reservation will never go unless we stop pitying one caste against other, one religion against other. unless this stops the politics of divide will continue.
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by Sincere Citizen on Feb 15, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
Wrong again, reservation encourages division. Education and equality removes division. If the govt. practises equality all these problems will vanish automatically. Yous solution is based on the premise of blaming others for problems with some sections in society. You cannot cure pollution by adding more pollution in air, the only way to reduce pollution is to take positive action of reducing harmful chemicals/plastics and planting more trees.
Similarly you cannot remove caste divides by adding reservations based on those divides.
