Martin Niem?r wrote about the inactivity of Germans, when Nazi rose to power in Germany.
"When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."
I really do not believe any sane Marathi will go by these lines and will silently watch. And it is time to oppose this activity of MNS in every way possible.
RE:Stop this at any cost
by Ashish Kanekar on May 05, 2008 02:09 AM Permalink
Does this mean you will support Lalu/Mulayam/Maya in every way possible?
Does this mean you will support Bihar/UP trend of rapid population growth on already saturated states in every way possible?
Does this mean irresponsibility in Bihar/UP is to be rewarded by giving them Maharashtra to screw over in every way possible?
Take your "sanity" lecture and go live in Bihar for a while. Problem is not in Maharashtra, problem is in Bihar and UP.
Now try not to change the conversation by using farmer deaths in Maharashtra as an excuse for UP/Bihar problems (a favorite tactic of UP/Bihar apologists)
RE:RE:Stop this at any cost
by Ordinary Indian on May 05, 2008 05:32 AM Permalink
Some of your points are valid.
But it does not mean you kill your own countrymen. That is pure cowardice. And a proud culture accepts other cultures. Here is question is about Chatta Puja, Maharastra Divas et al. Not about Lalu, Maya, Mulayam as the Thackareys are doing and saying.
RE:Stop this at any cost
by Ashish Kanekar on May 05, 2008 11:59 AM Permalink
It also does not mean those "countrymen" after having screwed over their own states will be allowed to do the same in Maharashtra.
If you try this anywhere in the world - you will be met with physical resistance. That's just the way human beings are.
For example if the Protestants in Northern Ireland try to impose themselves on Catholics there - there will be violence.
If the English try to impose themselves on Scotland there is violence.
If rest of Mexico tries to impose on state of Chiapas there is violence.
Re: Stop this at any cost
by Mag N on Oct 01, 2008 06:45 PM Permalink
Ashish, Where is the High Commission of Maharashtra, I need a visa to visit my friend in Mumbai.
I will take help of a translator to read ur marathi application.
God save India. Politicians on one side, religious fundamentalist on other, I dont know how to call u....
RE:Stop this at any cost
by chinnanai on May 05, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
To whom Mumbai belongs to?
It is actually people across India and everywhere who have made the city.
I mean Tata, Reliance, Software companies all are by outsiders. And a number of them are by north.
Fact is it will be over in some days, but it will resonate over years. India is NOT Ireland Or England or Mexico. I have seen a number of Marathis across metros be it Hyd, Blore, Chennai. And they do not speak the local tongue.
What will they do if they are attacked? As the inspiration for Raj T has come from Ramadoss's comment. Ramadoss seems to be hero for Raj T and co.
And the other day another politician from TN starts hitting at Marathis for some useless things and hits. Will you support or ask them to come back to Maharastra.
The question is about violence and killing. It is never the solution.
RE:Stop this at any cost
by Ashish Kanekar on May 06, 2008 07:36 AM Permalink
Marathis can come back to Maharashtra anytime - btw we will pay back in same coin.
The question is of two irresponsibly overpopulated states UP/Bihar now trying to offload their overpopulated masses on to other states.
You will never take over Maharashtra - This great state with ample water supply, access to the high seas, plentiful rainfall, largest electricity generation in India etc makes your mouth water. But we will never let you take it over.
Next election you will see how Raj has woken up the marathi people.