We have a lot of people like Arif , All Right, Play who crib about genocide , atrocity etc. I think they should thank their stars that they were born in India and not in countries like Porkistan , Iran , Indonesia or Saudi , where if they speak or write anything like this , they will be butchered. They enjoy all the benefits like Haj subsidy , protection (every political party talks abour their welfare), yet they crib about the people of the country , a country which has given a President, a SC judge , a cricket & hockey captain. So please think whether this freedom is being taken for granted, if yes they are free to shift to porkistan.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
Haj is not compulsory on a muslim. Please take away the subsidy. Why didnt Hajpai take it away ? I have never seen people from Saudi Arabia come to India to find work. Indians and a lot of them hindus go there to earn a better life. So please call them back. And if this country belongs to hindus then my ancestors were hindus too. I have inherited this land.
RE:Boot them out
by Bharat Kr on Aug 05, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
Arif: If you inherited this land from Hindu forfathers, then you must respect your Hindu forfathers and their decendents who are Hindus today. Try to find your roots and return back to your roots, which is Hindu dharma and culture. Welcome back to mother faith and culture.
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by dheeraj on Aug 05, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
Like u said can u give proof that ur ancestors were Hindus , maybe they ere arabs , Mughals , Mongols ,Central Asians or Afghans
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by manish rai on Aug 05, 2008 08:50 PM Permalink
Yes I know that 90% are converts, who could not face the mughals.Please ask your people to stop taking it , if the govt finds no takers it will take it tack simple.For people who go to earn , understand their rights and respect the law. You will not find them putting bombs and creating trouble. Moreover I have seen my friends ( Muslims ) who are treated like second grade citizens instead of people of porkistan. If you want I can name the employer who took the passport away the day he joined office.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 08:55 PM Permalink
Haj subsidy comes with a price...one has to travel via Air India!!!!! Now please give me the mathematics of the amount of business AI gets from these travels and the amount spent by the govt. And back it up with evidences. Why do you think Hajpai continued this subsidy ?
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by dheeraj on Aug 05, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
In fact air India is also subsidised for Haj Pilgriims .If not then State goverments are ready to pitch for subsidies .
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by manish rai on Aug 05, 2008 09:11 PM Permalink
Ek to bhek lo, uspe bhe nakhre. Its true you guys dont respect anything . Your tours are coming out my taxes and salaries, atleast respect that. Has anyone pressurised you to take Air India , take other Airlines.Baipai did not discontinue because people like you would have stoodup and cried foul. Do you know what the Govt subsidies for Sikhs pilgrim to Pakistan , NIL, thats what we get man while you get all the moolah and attention from politicians and media.
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by manish rai on Aug 05, 2008 09:20 PM Permalink
So Arif , stop taking this bheekh, travel Lufthansa , Gulf Air . I have only one word Ehsaan Faramosh ! Jis thali me khate ho hsi mein cheed karte ho
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
Yes if one takes a huj subsidy he HAS TO travel via AI. So we give business to AI and a BIG BIG business. Ask them or find it for urself.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 09:02 PM Permalink
A simple example about foreceful conversion allegation. Did the Kashmiri Pundits migrate to other parts of India fearing persecution ? Yes they did. Did the parsis traveled to India due to fear of religion persecution from muslims. Yes they did. Did the muslims migrated to parts of morroco fearing persecution from spanish crusaders ? Yes they did. If there was so much religious persecution of hindus during the Islamic rule you would have found hindus in many other parts of the world who would have migrated due to fear of persecution. Foreceful conversion Myth BUSTED.
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by dheeraj on Aug 05, 2008 09:09 PM Permalink
Yes of course ,the total population of parsis , Kashmiri pundits and morrocans must be about 2 million . How can 200 million Hindus migrate en masse .India was surrounded by Islamic Conties .still is , where to escape. AMYTH REGENERATED.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 09:14 PM Permalink
Take the example of KPs they migrated, during persecution people migrate to far away places like Parsis did.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 09:11 PM Permalink
WOW what a mind !!! great !!!! Hindus were not fixed to each other by some adhesive. During times of persecution not all migrate but some surely do. How is it possible that none out of such a HUGE population ever migrated. MYTH BUSTED AND BURIED.
RE:Boot them out
by dheeraj on Aug 05, 2008 09:20 PM Permalink
Where to migrate to when u are surrounded by Islamic states who have such a "great" record of Hospitality
RE:Boot them out
by Rationalist on Aug 05, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
You accept that Parsis,Kashmiri Pandits migrated due to Islamic terrorism. But deny forceful conversions. You contradict yourself just like your terror manual. This is just like a two tounged muslim guided by their terror manual. Speak one language in adversity and other language when conditions are favourable for crusade.
RE:Boot them out
by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 08:53 PM Permalink
Really then please ask your hindus not to die for jobs in Gulf. Some hindus even go to Afghanistan to find work. Dont you read news!!!
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by dheeraj on Aug 05, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
They do not die for it .They go there to make money , of course comprise is being treated not well . U cannot have everything in life . Half of migrants are muslims but their percentage in INdia is1 3.4
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by vijsr on Aug 05, 2008 09:03 PM Permalink
truth said by arif,that is their ancestors are hindus till goonds like babar,mogules,khilge, are enter our peacefull country.then only like ARIF ancestors are converted to muslims.present these converted muslims are high faith in islam ,compare to orginal muslims .
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by Radha Ranjan Madhav on Aug 05, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
muslims should wait for another gujrat like cleansing! The only problem is that not 100% of muslims are bad, even though 99% could be anti-India or anti-Hindu.
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by Arif on Aug 05, 2008 09:15 PM Permalink
We dont expect any better from you. We fear God and not your so your threats fall of deaf ears. Try scaring someone else hahaha
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by Rationalist on Aug 05, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
We know man you are mindless. Not understanding what you are doing. Somebody had converted you threatening your life and accepted without any conviction. Life is bigger than anything.
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by manish rai on Aug 05, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
Are there any questions still pending at my end , shoot them, I will answer. I am not getting personal, I started the discussion with this only.