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India vs. Bharat
by Kris on Aug 04, 2008 09:12 PM   Permalink | Hide replies


The article is attributed to 'one such supporter' of nuclear deal.

This person is frankly delusional. He or she has no clue what he/she is talking about.
70% of India needs state support for everyday living. They need primary care, education, cheap food, transportation to survive. Capitalism sounds very good on paper but has practical limitations.

Those paying attention to capitalist USA, would have noticed how US government is bailing out the banks, airlines, mortgage companies. Had there been real capitalism, these companies should have been allowed to go bankrupt. Same CEO who praise free market on CNBC are the first ones to show up begging money from the government ( which is basically tax payers money) to bail them out. Same guys who made hundreds of millions of dollars every year are now begging to be rescued by tax paers. Talk of shameless ness and hypocrisy.

Half knowledge is a dangerous thing and I am afraid that Indians have only been fed all the rosy scenarios but they don't know the dark side of capitalism.
As everything in life, balance is important. Free market socialism is the best solution to India's challeneges.

Germany and Japan should be India's model not USA.

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  RE:India vs. Bharat
by balamurugan g on Aug 04, 2008 09:30 PM   Permalink
You are right.. Germany & Japan received massive aid from USA after they were bombed.
So we add the following to the TODO things for India:
a. Go at war with USA.
b. Let USA drop couple of atom bombs..
This will help control 'population problem' as millions will die & we have leveled the cities which were becoming unwieldy due to lack of planning. Now we can plan and actually build proper cities.
c. Then you surrender & get funds for development due to massive sympathy towards the suffering & destruction we inflicted on ourselves.
d. Become developed countries like Germany & Japan.

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  RE:India vs. Bharat
by Kris on Aug 04, 2008 09:43 PM   Permalink
Are you as stupid as you sound?

Germany and Japan both had massive industrial base even before 2nd world war and did not require anyone's help to where they are today. Keep believing in oft-repeated misinformation. There is not even an iota of evidence that these countries were helped with US technology, if at all most of the technology was stolen from Germany. It is however, true that US carried out humanitarian missions in Germany after the second world war.

But that is not the issue here. The issue is government role in a society. Both Germany and Japan provide health care, education through government sponsored programmes. Government has an important constructive role to play in India. What you see in India today has been built on socilalist economy. Yes, it is true that India was on the other extreme and has to come to the center which it has done. There is no reason to move towards capitalism then we already have at this stage. Let the gains be consolidated, let people become more educated and self sufficient then we can move to next stage. India is not ready for that as yet.

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  RE:India vs. Bharat
by balamurugan g on Aug 04, 2008 10:02 PM   Permalink
Well.. I was talking about after the WWII.
If we want to go for the before WWII scenario here is the plan:
a. We need a leader like Hitler..
b. Attack other countries & loot their resources.
c. Set up colonies & kill the original inhabitants.
d. Extract untold taxes from those inferior people.
e. Pray that nobody comes to war with us.

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  RE:India vs. Bharat
by Kris on Aug 05, 2008 12:17 AM   Permalink
I am talking of Germany and Japan of TODAY not the past. By your logic, even US should not be followed after all they had slavery, cleansing of native Americans.

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