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@Surya Kanishka
by balaord on Apr 30, 2008 03:50 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

You made a rather sarcastic remark- and this is what you said
>>>By the way who is this Razi ??? a Lavoiser or a Rutherford ?? why his discoveries have not been mentioned in science books>>

There is a difference between science of scholors and popular science.I dont want to get into the detals of that.As far as telling you who Razi is here is the refernence

because Razis fundamental contribution,the Princeton University put up his image on the glass window of the Chapel to commemorate the
contributions of Al-Razi to the science of medicine for the whole world

Search for the word Razi
web.princeton.edu/sites/chapel/hisandarch.html

Photo
flickr.com/photos/adriana-lukas/366001434/

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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by balaord on Apr 30, 2008 04:03 AM   Permalink
who is a greater authority in chemistry than the chemical heritage foundation.It says

..Muhammad ibn Zakariya Al-Razi was born around 864 in the city of Rayy (in present-day Iran). A versatile mind, he was well learned in mathematics, astronomy, astrology, music, and medicine. In this last field Latin translations of his works%u2014 together with Avicennas Canon%u2014became the basis of the cursus studiorum for European students of medicine...

chemheritage.org/pubs/ch-v25n3-articles/feature_al-kimiya_p2.html

such founding fathers dont have even a passing reference in our science text books of India-is this not bias then what is?


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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by Bei on Apr 30, 2008 11:01 PM   Permalink
RE:Iran a big zero
by Nostra Damus on Apr 30, 2008 04:10 PM
The Arabs were doing fine as long as they followed Islam with intelligence and compassion. That is why they were able to invent so many navigation instruments, conquer half of Europe, yet did not molest christians or jews. The day they started becoming fanatics, they lost their compassion, their learning and the ability to govern instead of killing

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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by balaord on Apr 30, 2008 04:07 AM   Permalink
For details on Razi and when he stand along Lavoiser you can find this from the Journal of the American Chemical Society

pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/jacsat/1926/48/i08/f-pdf/f_ja01419a039.pdf



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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by Bei on Apr 30, 2008 08:07 AM   Permalink
Your thousand words cannot justify the actions we are witnessing. 167 Jews won Nobel prizes while only 6 Muslims did the same. Ancient time have passed we are in modern world. Stop blaming the West for all your problems. Is the West blaming you for theirs?

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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by balaord on Apr 30, 2008 03:54 AM   Permalink
This is from Michael A. Flannery, Associate Director for Historical Collections of University of Alabama at Birmingham

.. Indeed, pharmacy can trace much of its historical foundations to the singular achievements of this ninth-century Persian
scholar (Abu Bakr Mohammad Ibn Zakariya al-Razi)

uab.edu/reynolds/rhazes_pharm.htm

Such a towering figure who is credited for the very foundation of pharmacy doesnt have a single reference in our school text books.All the modern chemical processes such as crystallation,distilliataion etc are due to him.

what do you want to call his ommission a bias or a a mistake?

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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by Surya Kanishka on Apr 30, 2008 08:07 AM   Permalink
Cmon man, crystallation and distillation have existed before 6th century. Whom you are fooling around ??? if distillation didnt exist how they use make alcohol, salt for crystallation.

You seem to be a narrow minded and religious cocktail injected to the bone bigot. You are frog in the well and jaundice infected person.
Getout of this web of religion see the other man as a human being but not to which religion he belongs.

If every religionist like you becomes a bigot we are going to kill each other to the end. Hypocrites like you have sowed the seeds of hardened religious feeling in others to foment and cus trouble.

You will not achieve nor anyone only the civilisation on whole gets affected. Lastly, you come with no religion stamped on your back until your parents pour it in your heart, mind and soul. If your parents would have told you you are hindu you would become a hindu, a christian a cristian and a muslim a muslim. Stop your blabber of supremacy, let some sense prevail in your mind.

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  RE:@Surya Kanishka
by balaord on Apr 30, 2008 03:59 AM   Permalink
By the way Razi is a iranian whom you guys are busy abusing here.You are ready to embrace laovoiser as the father of modern chemistry.He did contribute ,but do you know Jabir Ibn hayam?

The American Chemical Society Journal published an article about Jabir Ibn Hayyan (Geber) .It was written by Joan Selverstone, who is the editor of American Chemical Society and an award-winning professor of chemistry and biochemistry at University of California, Los Angeles

...This extraordinary scientist, who lived in the late 8th or early 9th century, not only made many fundamental discoveries in inorganic chemistry but very likely was also the originator of the methods of modern chemical research....

pubs.acs.org/cen/80th/manganese.html#Anchor-Joan-56023

Not a single refernece in our text books about this originator of modern chemical reaserch - is this not bias?


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