Only 36% of Bangaloreans are kannadigas(yeah this includes Tulu and marathi ones)
64% of Bangaloreans are non-kannadigas!!!
- So you want everyone to speak Kannada? - Even Kannadigas are learning Hindi as 1st language and are neglecting their monther tougue - Karnataka is neglecting Tulu Language! and of course does not care for the marathi speaking north-karnataka - Apart fro Bangalore(which is run by non-kannadigas), Karnataka does not know to develop any region! - Its not surprising it is the least developed state in South India!
RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:34 AM Permalink
chalo.. me sleeps.. have a great time figuring out the truth. Dont have an assumption and then try your might to stick to such frivolous "facts"! You've got google too. Try and base your opinions from authentic sources! No ill-feelings mate! Good night! :)
RE:Food for thought!
by Guru on Apr 29, 2008 07:59 AM Permalink
Guys, please stop fighting. Our country is divided on the basis of language for administrative easiness only. It is not meant to divide us. Let us be proud of our diverse culture and languages. Please please my brothers let us stay united and contribute in some way to develop our country as a whole.
RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
Could you please elaborate on all the 4 points? Backed with data? Everybody knows empty vessels make more noise..
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:23 AM Permalink
You call this data- - Even Kannadigas are learning Hindi as 1st language and are neglecting their monther tougue - Karnataka is neglecting Tulu Language! and of course does not care for the marathi speaking north-karnataka - Apart fro Bangalore(which is run by non-kannadigas), Karnataka does not know to develop any region! - Its not surprising it is the least developed state in South India!
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:19 AM Permalink
I just posted the same mate.. i wish I could post the references.. site addresses... Could you please post your mail id?
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 01:05 AM Permalink
By the way, whoever told you that wikipedia is the most authentic sources of data such as you are coming up with. I can update it myself telling what I think is true, or worse, maliciously propagating a lie. Oh yeah, I can take you along for a tour of Karnataka, just to prove every point you made to be untrue. And I wont force upon you any ideas. You make the judgement call.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 01:08 AM Permalink
PS: I am not contesting the percentage of kannadigas in Bangalore. I am contesting on these 4 points- - Even Kannadigas are learning Hindi as 1st language and are neglecting their monther tougue - Karnataka is neglecting Tulu Language! and of course does not care for the marathi speaking north-karnataka - Apart fro Bangalore(which is run by non-kannadigas), Karnataka does not know to develop any region! - Its not surprising it is the least developed state in South India!
RE:Food for thought!
by TheSoutherner on Apr 29, 2008 01:14 AM Permalink
Ok here we go...
Unlike other states, Karnataka is not a single language state... The whole of Mangalore region speaks Tulu ..SO the question- WHat is KN doing to preserve Tulu language. Kannada is mandatory in Tulu region.
The same goes for Marathi speaking north karnataka!
Can you enlighten me on, the great cities of Karnatake(apart from Bangalore/mysore) ...and why they are famous for??? (I am taking about development)
AP, TN and kerala are far ahead of KN, on Human development index, literacy, economy(may be kerala is behind, but it has more cities than KN)..the point is take out Bangalore from KN, and there is NO economics to speak of in KN!! unlike other south indian states!
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:04 AM Permalink
hopefully rediff doesn't block this message! I already posted tow messages which, rediff thought were abusive..
RE:Food for thought!
by S J on Apr 29, 2008 03:32 AM Permalink
You are so ignorant about Karnataka. I am from North Karnataka and speak only Kannada at home. So do most people with the exception of one city called Belgaum, where some people speak marathi at home. Karnataka has rich cities both in South and in the Northern parts. To name a few Mysore (it is a top tier 2 city in india) , Hubli , Davangere, Shimoga and Karwar. Again I cant believe how ignorant you are. Kannadigas are proud of their culture, while fully appreciating that their are other languages and cultures that deserve all the respect.
If TN and Kerala are so great (with due respect to them). why dont people just stay in the state? The fact of the matter is Kerala does not have any jobs (no fault of the malyalis, just the communist government), and TN is too hostile with its linguistic barriers even to the most open minded Indians. I have stayed in both these states and I appreciate a lot that is good about them. However, there is no reason for you to trash karnataka. If you dont like it, you are free to be in Chennai :)
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 01:32 AM Permalink
By the way, there is a book called India-2008, released by the Govt. of India. I have a copy of the same with me, but am unable to place the site name. It is published by "Publications Division, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting". Some of the useful stats can be found there. This is for your reference and if you wish to cross verify your "data". Please post your references too.
RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 01:29 AM Permalink
Your are the ones coming up with the figure.. so please enlighten me with your references. I still dont see you posting your references here. Should I presume all those statistics were made up on the fly?
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:06 AM Permalink
Oh cool .. its the links i posted which were dis-allowed.. Have a look at macroscan dot org. also search for India book 2008. I wrote a couple of longish replies detailing and countering each of your deductions..
RE:RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:26 AM Permalink
Its akin to saying- I ve got a wh0*e(atleast) on my side. keep it man, if it makes you feel "non empty". :D
RE:Food for thought!
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 02:17 AM Permalink
In the same wikipedia of yours search for karnataka.. you will read enough about its cities and what they are famous for.. None of them, I assure you, are as famous as the metros.. But there are no two metros in a single state!
Second, Tell me what you know of NK. except for Belgaum, there is no other town/city in NK which has a sizable population of Marathi speakers.. And you say all of NK is predominantly Marathi speaking! How naive of you!
Third, Karnataka has more than one language.. true.. But so do other states too! Maharashtra has a sholapur which has a sizable population of kannada speakers, same is the case with Mantralaya in AP, and kasargod in Kerala. And I am mentioning only the prominent places.. And to think that you don't know about your own state mocks of lack of enough knowledge on the subject you are arguing. Anyway, tlel me what are these states doing to preserve the language in thee place i mentioned?? And if you are one of those arrogant tams, hey man, chill, have a look at your own backyard.. :)
Third.. search for the HDI and SDP indexes for the southern states.. your proclaimed data is incongruent with the known facts.
RE:Food for thought!
by Ashok Shet on Apr 29, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Sorry for your half knowledge, Hindi is not first language in Karnatka, Check with Education Department in Bangalore before making the Statment.
