Pakistan has obliterated Paki Hindus. The population has been eradicated from 15% to 0.5% since independence(wikipedia). What difference does it make if one more is killed?
God has already started punishing Pakistan and Muslims all over the world brothers. God has already made them the weakest, most illiterate, God has forbidden any nobel laureate from taking birth amongst Muslims, and the punishment has just started.
I advice pakistan to kill Sarabjit, one more Hindu will be added to millions. Atleast tomorrow their guild will be complete in front of the Almighty and their punishment will be unparalleled. Ditto for Muslims worldwide who have morally supported such acts.
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by salim syed on Apr 24, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
My friend Lotan, Sarabjit is not HINDU , he is SIKH, before writing , first do some research
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by Avinash on Apr 24, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Mr.salim syed, what difference does it make whether he is a hindu or a sikh? In any case, he is a kafir in the eyes of the muslims.
Today's news papers have reported the resignation of a lone sikh traffic cop in Pakistan due to constant harrassment by the Govt and ridiculing by his muslim colleagues. His turban was forcibly removed by one of his colleague as per the news paper report!
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by LOTUS on Apr 24, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
Dear Salim Syed, Talking of research-about Sikh religion !! I am sure what I write further will be objected by many Sikhs, but let it be. They would object just out of 'identity ego'.
Sikhism started with Guru Nanak, who in his time started preaching against division based on Hindu-Muslim religions. His preachings talk about 'Formless God who pervades the universe'. He said - Ek Omkara i.e. HE IS THE ONLY ONE.
As happens with any guru with great followings-a chain or inheritence of Gurudom started with Nanak. Read Guru Granth Sahib or other Guru's Baani (sayings) they incessantly speak about Hindu gods and goddesses - Chandi, Lakshmi, Narayan, Brahm, Ram etc. It only happened with 10th guru Guru Govind Singh that the prevailing circumstances motivated him to motivate the fighting spirits among the non-muslim masses, as the Mughals had turned more and more vicious and tyrant. So, he named his followers -Sikh (meaning student). Thus Sikhism became a militant wing of Hindu society. If the 10th guru had lived longer he would have been followed by a living inheritor. He had even sacrificed all his sons in the fight against Mughals, he said, "Guru Manyo Granth". Which really meant that follow this Granth as you would follow your Guru, as the Holy Book had preachings or Bhajans from large number of saints or wise human beings.
But unfortunately, Most of the sikhs have implemented this advice in a ritualistic form - without actually understanding what they chant!!!!
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by Sheetal Kaur on Apr 24, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
Just to put matter correctly, Sikhism did not start with Guru Nanak. Up to the ninth Guru and part of the life of Guru Gobind Sing all were Hindus. if you check there names you will see that their name s are of Hindus. Guru Gobind sing was a Gobind Rai before he created the Sikh(Khalsa). Singh Word was originally with Rajputs and all raj puts are named Singh although they are Hindus. Guru Nanak was looked upon by both Hindus and Muslims alike. For Hindus He was a Guru and for Muslims He was a Peer. Muslims still pay homage to Guru nanaks dergah and also go to Nankana Sahib to pay their Homage and Respect. How Sikhism came to being 8is another subject. which is not discus able here it is complicated. There is no space.
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by Ravinder on Apr 24, 2008 03:25 PM Permalink
dear Lotus, Its good that you know about sikh religion but When Guru Gobind singh ji started sikh religion,after that its seperate religion with own rituals so do not try to mix up facts. Sikhisim is a seperate religion & will remain so till the last human on Earth & keep fighting against any injustice.
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by Avinash on Apr 24, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
Dear Falcon, I have not heard of any one going to some "Paradise" in the last 2000 years. Jesus claimed that he will save all those who follow his principles and similarly Mohammed also promised great many rewards in the Islamic Paradise. Still all the Christians and Muslims lie buried and will remain so till eternity. Btw the eternity I mean is not the one the religious people claim!
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by Falcon on Apr 24, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
Avinash Dont worry Avinash as long as you are denying the existing of God, Surely you are going to become a companion of Hell fire,,,,,,, We wish you could have understand it,,,
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by Avinash on Apr 24, 2008 03:31 PM Permalink
Dear Ravinder, can you refute my message? As per my knowledge all Indians except Muslims, Christians, Parsis and Jews are considered as "Hindus" as per our Constitution, which is the governing document. Are you aware that only "hindus" are elegible for "Reservation" ? Dalits from all religions (Sikhs, Buddhists, etc are also entitled to the benefit of "Reservation" only on account of all of them being treated as "Hindus"!
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by Sheetal Kaur on Apr 24, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
Guru Granth sahib is a rule book that gives the outline of life in peace times. But it has been commercialized and has become a mean of minting money like any other religion. Sikhism was never a religion Sikhs were created as a wariers to fight against the evil mughal kings. There was nothing against any civil Muslim. don't forget that the foundations of the Golden temple are Laid by a Muslim, the two right hand men of Guru Gobind Sing were Muslims. Gurbani of may a Muslims is included in the Guru Granth sahib most noted is Kabir. And the two right hand men of Guru Nanak were also Muslims, Matter infact the decedent of the deciple Mardana are still alive and do kirtan in Gurudwaras while living in Pakistan. It proves that Sikhs were never against Muslims or their religion but the Evil doings of Moghal kings. Modern day Muslims of India and Pakistan are the converts of that era, either by force or by fear. If Muslims try to trace their ancestry they will find a Hindu connection somewhere in line. Many a Hindu surnames still survive in Muslims Such as Sagoo,Birdi,Shah,Chaudary to name but few.
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by LOTUS on Apr 24, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
With passage of time, the Sikhs felt the usefulness of maintaining the separate prominent identity. Like other religionists, they started feeling as 'more evolved that the Hindus'. So, for a Hindu, Sikh gurus are still part of their ancestory. Hindus consider Sikhism as another sect of their religion which has acquired distinct looks, dress code, rituals etc. It would not be a surprise, if down the ages you may start believing that SwamiNarayan sect is Non-Hindu, MurariBapu sect is Non-Hindu etc etc.
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by Avinash on Apr 24, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
Dear LOTUS, as per my understanding the word "Sikh" in derived from Sinh (lion). Every male sikh is called a "Singh" (Lion) and every female is called "Kaur" (princess) in Sikh tradition.
Sikh religion is considered as part of Hinduism (except by a few die hard sikhs who claim that their is a separate religion - this trend started about 30 years back or so only). The late Master Tara Singh was one of the founding memebr of VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad). Many hindu families make their first born child as a "Kershdhari sikh" and also marriages between sikhs and hindus are common among the Punjabis.