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Curses of India
by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 01:49 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

1. Congress (No love for nation, casteism)
2. Reservation (No fair chances for all)
3 Curruption (Dishonesty is killing all)

We all including me is responcible for this as we encourage these by voting them again and again. Now we all should ponder what to be done to make LOVELY INDIA free of all these three. Now please dont tell me that I am BJP soft cornered Brahmin/High caste person. I dont beleive in casteism.


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by jack back on Apr 25, 2008 02:47 AM   Permalink
Reservation should be good for fair distribution of wealth in a society/nation.If that is not achieved then it becomes curse.

I have seen they apply reservation & then lower the standard of education for students on reservation to get thru.This does nothing but lowering the overall standard.

Wealth in any form in a given society is fixed in size. If it is given away to one part it has to come from the other part of society.Those who receives it without due consideration usually abuse it.

Let the society be free for everyone to have an opportunity to progress.Give a helping hand to someone mistreated to survive.I don't know if someone progresses simply by giving an opportunity.

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:03 AM   Permalink
If congress has no love for nation then what does BJP have? they have been dividing India on the basis of caste and religion, and now their ally shiv sena is breaking the country on regionalism and language

I think BJP has done the biggest damage to our country ... their administration is weak and their leaders are indisciplined and waste time fighting between themselves

congress may be corrupt, but BJP hasn't had much time at center to be corrupt ... a currupt but working adminitration is far better than an inefficent and lazy adminitration, even if they are honest to the core

Vandemataram

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by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 02:08 AM   Permalink
Congress is doing just vote bank politics since Indian Indipendence. Nothing else. They hurt Hindus by saying Lord Rama is Myth. They divide India by Caste based Reservation. They did it not 5 or 10 yrs but for 55 Yrs.
Vande Maataram

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by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 02:10 AM   Permalink
Mahatma Gandhi Wanted Congress to be dissolved soon after the Indian Indipendence. But Selfish Nehru did not do it and made use of the party for his personal and family benefits.

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:16 AM   Permalink
dissolved? INC may have been dissolved but its members would have formed another party ... the congress of pre-partition is not there anymore. would a different name have changed congress ideology? Indira Gandhi called it congress I and then I don't know what happened to that "I"

congress is just a name ... the ideology is what you should question, not the name

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:14 AM   Permalink
what is BJP doing? what is praising jinnah? is that not playing vote politics? what about riots in gujarat? was that not a calculated move by modi knowing that elections were right around the corner? during VP singh regime, BJP never opposed the mandal commission implementation, but withdrew support when advani's rath yatra was stopped. what is it? vote politics!!

don't just blame congress, BJP is doing the same thing

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by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 02:19 AM   Permalink
Loan Shark. I agree with you. Politics in India and also around the world is just change of colours. But What I meant was for Out of 100, I give 20 for Congress and 25 for BJP. So I would vote BJP.

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:23 AM   Permalink
I don't question your voting for BJP ... afterall we are proud of India being a democratic country and I respect your opinion and your preference of one over another.

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by jack back on Apr 25, 2008 03:08 AM   Permalink
some of the things are apparently done the same by both BJP & Congress yet there is a big difference.BJP does it with responsibility, Congress is doing the same merely to stay in power.

BJP is indegenous Indian, Congress is nothing but colonising concept imposed by foreign power and carried forward by Congi/Commie.Colonization meant to be extremely good for a few & that's why you see a lot of syncophancy in Congress.

BJP sometime looks to be unruly but remember it is a coglomaration of free and independent minded people.They have difference in opinion yet they are together.The result is Modi in Gujarat.

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:20 AM   Permalink
LOL @ lord Rama being a myth ... you are a warehouse of misinfomation ... the archeological survey's affidavit only stated that there was no arceological evidence of existence of Rama ... so, you have a proof of existence of Lord Ram? something that proves that Lord Ram existed?

It is all in out heart. It's our belief, it's our faith. I am a Hindu too, but the affidavit didn't hurt me, nor has it reduced my belief in Ram.

Tera Ramji karenge bedda paar, udassi man kaahe ko darre!!

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by satyarthi on Apr 25, 2008 01:53 AM   Permalink
It is good that you don't believe in casteism. but you are opposing reservation to OBC/SC/ST. Reservation is only thing a poor hindism (vis--vis Churches, islamists and maoists) can afford to share among ourselves.

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by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 02:04 AM   Permalink
Reservation in India is there since Indipendence. Do you think It has done good to the needy. Yes I agree.. give reservation to people who are economicaly poor. But not to SC/ST/OBC wealthy IAS/IPS officer son/daughter who can drive to college in a car. Man think of coming up in life by hard work and not by favours. Reservation is just like a favour. Dont get it if you dont need it. Congress has made reservation by Default based on casteism.

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:11 AM   Permalink
in fact, reservation has done a lot of people a lot of good ... you do not realize that all these SC/ST guys who have good govt. jobs would be still doing menial work because of lack of education and overall merit to compete with gen category.

It hasn't changed the entire backward community's fortune yet ... but then rome wasn't built in a day and India's backward classes and population is too big to improve their economic status in 60 years.

60 years have done a lot of good to them, but not completely ... I think some reservation is good ... as for the general class complaining, I must tell them to work hard or maybe harder and stop whining ... you have more than those backward caste people ... make use of your resources rather than continue to blame your failures on the reservation system ... forever!

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by Venkat on Apr 25, 2008 02:21 AM   Permalink
Reservation/quota is a curse to our country.

Remember Great visionaries like Sir M. Vishveshwariah opposed recruitments of weak candidates in the name of caste/reservation.

If reservation is there, it should be based on how economically poor you are, not on how low caste you are.
If you want reservation on caste basis, you are openly telling you belongs to so & so caste....
So you become a caste person again. Then what is the difference between you & the higher castes you oppose?

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by Loan Shark on Apr 25, 2008 02:27 AM   Permalink
why dn't you make an effort and call your MP/MLA and tell him/her to change the reservation to economic basis instead of caste basis.

Those who complain today about caste being the basis for reservation would feel the same way once it is switched to economic criteria. There will be such a low cutoff for monthly/annual income that most general category guys, who can afford a computer and an internet conection so they can whine on rediff, will still be above the cutoff

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by Venkat on Apr 25, 2008 03:12 AM   Permalink
Loan,you know how our elections and politicians works out in our country!

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by Venkat on Apr 25, 2008 02:42 AM   Permalink
Hahaha...Loan,
You know how our election system works!

Politicians might be most stupids in all the other areas, except election issues.

You still think our politicians are working for development of our country?
If we have achieved high marks in the world scenario today, its because not because of any govts. Its because of India's scholerly people and the great private enterprenuers.

Great Dr. B.R.A asked only for ten yrs, he knew the consequenses beyond that.

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by vinod kumar on Apr 25, 2008 02:13 AM   Permalink
This if FAR better than TN where they give free TV. No water, sanitation or hospitals but stupid DMK gives TV and arrack. Btw, before any morons start abusing me - I am a Tamilian, so dont make this into regional fight.

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by italyseaayi on Apr 25, 2008 02:16 AM   Permalink
Dear Vinod. U have no choice other than voting a party ahich gives color TV (DMK) or sarees and Chappals (AIADMK). People choose either of two when ever their TV or Chappals/sarees becomes old. LOL...

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by Indoamerican on Apr 25, 2008 02:29 AM   Permalink
I second all who says reservation is bad if it is based on Caste. But reservation based on economical condition irrespective of caste is Fine

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