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QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 03:37 PM   Permalink | Hide replies



JEHAD:
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Jehad means to strive, to put in everything

JEHAD AGAINST NON-BELIEF:
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Jehad against non-belief means to strive to educate and enlighten non-believers out of ignorant beliefs.

JEHAD AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS:
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Jehad against non-believers means to strive to debate convince to educate and enlighten non-believers out of ignorant beliefs.

Jehad against non-believers also means to boldly face threat of physical damage by those agents who try force you to giveup your endeavor to enlighten ignorant brothers.

WHAT JIHAD IS NOT:
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- To force/threaten any common non-believer to Embtrace Islam.
- To force/threaten any common non-believer to to give up idol worship

- To forcibly destroy any common non-believer's place of worship



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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:03 PM   Permalink
READ ORIGINAL KORAN- UR CONCEPTION IS WRONG.
HERE IN THIS TEXT SEE HOW THE ORIGIN OF TERRORISTS ARE TELLING THAT " WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM". IT SOUNDS LIKE A MAD IS TELLING " I AM NOT MAD"
WHETHER U AGREE OR NOT BUT WORLD IS HAVING THE PROOF HOW RAPE , KILLING OF NON-BELIEVER WERE JUSTIFIED IN KORAN. I THANK U THAT U HAVE COMNE OUT OF THIS CRUEL RELIGION AND TALKING LIKE HINDU AS U R ULTIMATELY HINDU BLOOD. IT IS THE SATSANG OF HINDU THAT INDIAN MUSLIMS HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THE BROTHERHOOD. I BELIEVE THAT U ALL MUSLIM BROTHERS WILL COME BACK TO THE PATH OF PEACE . THIS IS THE WISH OF THE BALANCE SUCCESSORS OF UR FOREFATHERS

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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:11 PM   Permalink

You can sure shout, but are not capable to prove your point against Quran.

There are two ways you can prove your point...

1. Bring reference of MUSLIM Scholors explaining Quran wherein Violence against Non-Muslims is justified

1. Bring reference of Historical events where Muslims executed Jihad in manner you claim.

I am sure you will fail to prove against Quran in any of the two ways suggested.

Obviously all you can do is shout an shout hpoing that Lie repeated 100 times becomes truth

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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:16 PM   Permalink
yes sir, i am proving it and giving the references. then do'nt tell that these r not taken from koran.
koran says:
"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 6:420)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)



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by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:30 PM   Permalink
on ur second point for historical event to justify the islam and muslim king and the spreading of religion in name of islam have been chronologically described in islam website. go to: chronology of religion.com how islamic events r described with muslim king what started from arab and that is why i tell this religion is less religion in it's cpore but a war movement to occupy land, provice and to misguide people in name of religion. u believe or not who r the originator of this religion does not know till date how to make a needle.

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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:48 PM   Permalink
All i am saying that islam created from hinduism and the texts were scateredly borowed from geeta, veda etc . on a particular cotext what was told in geeta , islam had taked without giving reference of a incident and that's why thois book has become a instruction and u people r misguided but hindu knows on what occasion what to do. muslim kill their own brother due to teaching of geeta as it was halfly told in koran and the last u know , the half knowledge is dangerous. so the islam remains to be to destroy the world.

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  RE:RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:45 PM   Permalink

No confusing here.

ISLAM AND KINGS DO NOT STAND TOGETHER

ISLAM IS LEAST RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY KINGS ACTS

MUSLIM KINGS STARTED THEIR MISSION BY FIRST REPRESSING ISLAM AND ISLAMISTS (Imam Hussain etc)...THEY REACHED INDIA MUCH LATER


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  RE:RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:36 PM   Permalink

Doesn't Gita says " ...Do not hesitate to kill your relatives..."

Now you will say context!!

So you mean context only applies on Gita, not on Quran. When you reproduce a Quranic Verse, why do you also not produce its context

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  RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Ismart on Apr 20, 2008 04:30 PM   Permalink
My Dear Emeny of ISLAM & PEACE Mr.Saugata B.

the 1st ref : is for those who will enter the Jaanat.
2nd ref : Allah says if any one came & want to fight with u near MAKKA ( Place of Worship to only ALLAAH) then fight with those people (Like you) & kill them coz Idolatry is not allowed in ISLAM. & there the fight is Obligatotry.
Understand U Mr.Saugata Baaaa.

As I said read & understand what ALLAH the master of ALL, says, dont try to just copy & past the things from some website.


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  RE:RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:34 PM   Permalink
WHAT a bloody logic and talk high thayt islam has not approved killing. u urself is telling that who r worshipping idol they will be killed. u r spreading hatred and speaking agaist humanity . now tell me whose points r more valid when answering Wahaj

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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:42 PM   Permalink

Dude, before jumping to answer, please understand whole context.

Quranic Verse "..Kill them wherever you find them..." is telling Muslims that killing is okay if you are under aggression. "Them" here stands for aggressors, not any non-muslim.

These Islam haters want to discuss Quranic verses, but never their context

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  RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:33 PM   Permalink
Now face these answers:

Slay them wherever you find them..." (Surah 6:420.

WRONG Reference. Anyway, this verse exists in Quran. It actually means :
"Slay them (aggressors) wherever you find them..."
Slaying is allowed in war situation when you are under aggression. But this Saugata, in state of Denial wants us to mislead that Quarn is saying to kill any non muslim wherever they are found. Nothing can be bigger foolishmess to think like that.


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  RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:55 PM   Permalink
NO WHERE IN KORAN IS WRITTEN THAT THEM MEANS AGGRESSORS AND THAT IS MISGUIDING OUR illiterate MUSLIM BROTHERS

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by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:52 PM   Permalink
yes, here is the fear. i am expressing that this type of line in koran is misguiding and it is misguiding the masses. violence ,jehadis r created based on this lines.

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  RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 04:14 PM   Permalink

your problem is that like a low brain you are not able to distinguish between Muslim Kings and Islam. For you both are same.

What a fallacy


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  RE:RE:RE:QURANIC JIHAD .. WHAT IT IS WHAT IT IS NOT
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 20, 2008 04:58 PM   Permalink
Sometimes Jews, Hindus and Christians change their names and pose as Muslims to get well paying teaching jobs in Muslim schools. .

One such fake Muslim taught in an Islamic school in England. He was discovered and kicked out promptly..

The rat went to BBC and told them what we teach to our Muslim children. Here is the director of our Islamic school

Dr. Sumaya Alyusuf , demonstrating how to pull wool over infidel eyes by using the basic Islamic tenets of Taqiyya ::

1. Lying through your teeth

2. Denying every allegation

3. Never giving a straight answer

4. Using your bread and butter tactics of out of context wrong interpretation and wrong translation whole paragraph/storyv must be read%u201D repeatedly

5. Basically giving them a run around

Muslims don't USE their brains - Educated Muslims are more dangerous than illiterate muslims


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