Folks, many people in these forums are as you are aware spreading messages of hatred and disharmony. Beware of these people who are bashing muslims or hindus etc.
If you want to know the reality that look at your neighbours your friends, do they not love you, visit you, talk to you for whatever you are. Remember how many people helped you, in your life without caring what your religion is or who you are.
Its easy to forget the good, because bad is so appealing, but please do not let the virtues, the goodness dies because thats what makes us human. The messages here are not the pulse of India, its the pulse of our enemies. Ofcourse we all feel strong when we hear bad things in newspaper, but stop this generalization. If one tomato is bad, doesnt mean all tomatoes are bad.
Love each other and fight this jihad firstly from with in. If you believe in God everywhere, then how can you hate each other. Wake up folks, this is a misinformation of our enemies.
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by chintu on Apr 19, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
it happend before & is happening again...history repeats itself...our ancestors did the mistake of ignoring the ch*st*ans and there hidden agenda of divide & rule and to destroy the country and its unity by making hindus fight hindus raking up caste diferences and also fill hatred between hindus and muslims. While we are fighting here like dogs they are spreading there evil cult by mass conversions targeting innocent, vulnerable ppl taking advantage of their weaknesses by showing them the bate of money, food or job with foreign funds in thre hands. Mostly they are targetting tribal & poor ppl. In the name of providing social service they are spreading hatred against other religions.90% population of seven sisters or the north eastern states is converted chr*st*ans now. Have read the slogans in these states "Drive away Indian dogs". These states are now demanding independent statehood. History is repeating. Save your religion & your country, wotever it takes. Its your responsibility. Stop people from getting converted. Stop the evil. If we try to ignore now we all will wake up in slavery. Save your culture and your country.
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by chintu on Apr 19, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
0.5 sumit can u stop being nice & open ur mouth wide once, so tat ppl can c all tat hidden in there. dont preach here. go & do it in a mass gathering, from where u were born and the outcome of such gathering. What you are trying to do now Britisher's have done it long back in this country, taking turn in being nice to each at a time, so tat eventually they kill themselves & then u call it spreading peace. BS. F C
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by SUMIT KAUL on Apr 19, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
I was born in India and I am not a preacher, but I am thankful to the country for my good education which was secular. I have friends from all religion. I do not hide, thats why my Name, is clearly evident. While I agree with you about the conversions, but look deep inside and you will find that people do so, because they are victims of the system, where they cannot enter temples because of this dogma.
People are victimized for their belief, their castes. Even today an upper caste burns a lower caste just for raising his voice and then you are telling them, hey dont convert.
While I appreciate your national sentiments and I agree that while in China people bash foreigner on a net debate, we bash each other spreading more hatred.
All muslims, christians and everyone in this country are all my fellow human beings and more if you think beyond boundaries.
If you believe in national boundaries we need a national identity, if you believe in religion, we need a secular identity.
This nation is itself beyond boundaries thats why it has survived so many onslaughts. But to make it great we need remove prejudice and deprivation, rather then chatter about religion, because religion is an opium of the masses.
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by chintu on Apr 19, 2008 10:55 PM Permalink
before talking any further go & find out about your ancestors. Before telling ur name here try to find out ur ancetors names and find out how and y they were victimized. And if at all ur a true lover of peace and humanity without boundaries and religion help those people who are being victimized not by converting the innocent, ignorant and helpless people but actually dealing with people who made them suffer. Dont bring any religion in between but try to remove the disparities, so that there is no hate against anyone but still there is peace. Try to induce humanity in people who r making others suffer and make them realise to c all equal, tats called spreading humanity. But not searching for the victims and converting them. By converting wot ur doing ur actually filling the victims heart with hate against the religion and community who made him suffer. Thus there is more hate being developed in this country faster than 9% GDP. U talk about humanity and national pride, national intrests. Y u target people who r victims, bcz its easy to fill them with hate against people who made them suffer. U r dealing with outcome instead of the source of the problem. You dont want to deal with actual source bcz, once the source of the prob is gone there will b no victims, if no victims no work for ppl of ur cult.
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by chintu on Apr 19, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
i was talking of evil & here it is...someone told a muslim brother something, so here is a nice oppurtunity to spread peace(hate) by being nice to them taking advantage of their hurt burn and their sensitivities.
When tat same muslim hurts a hindu brother, this evil will now takes the side of the hindu brother, and talk nicely in the disguise of peace and fill his heart with hate making him realise actually wot happend to him if at all he dint realise how tat muslim brother hurted him. Thats how this evil people can live fighting & making people drink each others blood, otherwise they cant exist, thats there weakness.
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by chintu on Apr 19, 2008 10:26 PM Permalink
tats wot dont need to chatter about religion when u talk about spreading peace. serving humanity need not b in the name of god. you will know the truth when u look into a social organisation functioning in India, especially foreign funded.
No system scientific, financial or social is without defects and faults, every system has and will have something defect bcause nothing in this universe is perfect, perfect does not exist. YES I do agree that our system too have lot of defects and the outcome of those defects is the suffering of some people, this does not mean tat the weaknesses of those people should be exploited and fill there heart with hate against the people who made them suffer and then convert them bcz u get few $s out of that.
Even people who do such acts they too got a soul, & there conscious knows wot they r doing is wrong. If u love ur religion stick to it,if u love ur country stick to it. But dont look for a goat so that u can rub ur religion on to tat bcoz tat goat has been away from the heard because of some reason or da other. Nation is protected by boundaries, people living within those boundaries need to protect them. Religion is protected by belief, and people in that religion should protect their belief. As invading another country is illegal, invading other peoples religion and believes is illegal and inhuman, wotever might b the reasons.
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by SUMIT KAUL on Apr 19, 2008 09:28 PM Permalink
Nature has bashed world many many times. Floods, droughts, diseases all are self evident. But if you believe there is Creation after every destruction.
Its a necessary thing, its a cycle then how can you hate it. Most people fail to understand because they are too attached to the wordly possessions. Everything you see, hear, feel is worldly and you will leave it here once you leave.
Muslims are also human beings. They have the soul of same supreme soul, yes they do not follow your ways. Doesnt make them wrong, doesnt give you any right to destroy that creation which GOD himself created.