1. Globally, It has become fashion to blame Islam for Violence that is rooted in regional politics... issues of Chechenya, Palestine Kashmir are wrongly painted as Islamist issues. Islam is crookedly blamed by adversaries of Islam for these issues which are purely political.
THIS MUST END
2. In India, Hindus want to build case that approx 30% spread of Islam in Indian subcontinent (India, pakistan, B'Desh) is entirely due to FORCED conversions. This is wholly unfounded with no Historical evidence. Wars between Muslim Kings and Indian Raja's are misconstrued as war for spreading Islam. In reality Muslim Kings never wanted to spread Islam in their lands (Infact they were opposed to it) because a) ISLAM never supported King's rule, and b) Islam is against tax beyond 4%. But these Kings wanted life Kingsize that required to levy 25% to 40% tax.
SO BASELESS INSINUATIONS AGAINST ISLAM MUST END
This is essential for peaceful future.
Else, we are all heading for a serious war in future between Muslims and Non-Muslim world
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 14, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Wars of History between Muslim Badshah and Hindu King must not be seen as war between Muslims and Hindus.
They must be seen as war between Muslim Crimanls/Parasites and Hindu Criminals/Parasites.
Neither Religion was ever linked to these Kings.
Kings kept humanity hostage for thousands of years. Islam never recognized Kingdoms. All Mughal Kings, all Tughlaqs, and Afghans who invaded india were just Criminlas in eyes of Islam.
Likewise, Hindus must appreciate that no point glorifying any Hindu King. They were as bad and corrupt parasites as any other.
Only IDIOTS of highest order will fight on the basis of King's identity.
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by Piyush Bhargava on Apr 14, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
It seems you are a student of some Madrasa in 2 or 3rd standard having no idea about history.Cruelty of muslims is a documented fact.Aurangzeb was famous for cruelty.Why did the muslims impose jazira tax on Hindus. It is true that majority of the muslims in India had been converted to muslims under the threat of the sword.The Mughals were criminals and looters.
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 14, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Every King became first a criminal, then the King. I accept that. Be it Muslim or Hindu or Christian.
Sikh Gurus were exceptions...Muslim Caliphs were exceptions. But they never established Dynastic Rules like Kings. So they were not kings.
Jazia is only 4%. So it can not be called cruelty.
Aurangzeb tried to promote spreading of Islam. But force was not used. He gave big lands and money for Temples as well.
Nearest you can go to forced conversion to Islam is that a Prisoner of war who waged war against Islam/Muslims, and who is convicted to death already, would be spared if he accepts Islam. Aurangzeb only used this clause to free prisoners of war taken in Punjab rebellion.
I do not think it amounts to Conversion by SWORD as generally painted by non Muslims
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by san df on Apr 14, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
My dear friend u must understand one thing. In India islam is not the only minority religion. Thr r so many other religions among which islam is only one of them. Go and check history without partiality my friend. Invading muslims hav destroyed hundreds of temples and constructed mosques, raped women, converted so many people, snatched away land in the form of pakistan and bangladesh (now kashmir) and now terrorism in the name of religion targetting innocent civilians. You seem to b a moderate muslim with good intentions and peaceful coexistence but seein wat has happened and still happenin has sowed the seeds of hatred in my mind. All though todays muslims are not responsible and they must not b blamed, i want proper history about wat islam has done to india to b published. I too want peaceful coexistence but not at the cost of my people, my religion and my country
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 14, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
SURE...True History must come out. Uptil now only communalists took job of (mis)teaching Indians.
Muslim Kings - who are nothing but criminals in eyes of Islam - did nothing especially bad. All kings in History looted in conquered lands, lifted women, raped them. Some Muslim kings looted Temples not because it was linked to religion. But because they knew they will get big wealth there. Diamonds and Gold and what not that Hindus used to offer in Temples. Again this aspect is wrongly painted in history.
Unless we present correct and balanced version of History, this hatred s not expected to go down.
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by san df on Apr 14, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
Also u people must stop producin so many kids and accept common civil law. Look at the rise in muslim population in india and the drop and persecution of hindu population in pakistan and bangladesh. And u wer writin abt hindu kings. Many Hindu monarchs wer thousand times better than todays democracy from Dasarath, Rama then to Bharata, Dharmaraju, Parikshit to Chandra gupta Maurya to the great Shivaji, Rajputs, Krishna Devaralu and Tamil kings like Cholas and Pandyas. There were good religious practises, respect for women, proper protection to the people and there was DHARMA which are lacking today.
RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by san df on Apr 14, 2008 06:27 PM Permalink
My dear friend itz because of history and fundamentalism, u and me fight who want peace and frienship. But at the same time also understand what sufferins the hindus faced and still we are very vibrant today. Hatz of to u for accepting the truth (which many muslims dont do). We dont want u guys to pay for wat ur fore-fathers hav done but we want u to accept history, appreciate hindus and treat them and hinduism with respect and a very small minority of muslims to stop support terror in india.
RE:RE:INSINUATING ISLAM MUST END... for peaceful coexistence
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 14, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
again, you smack of nurturing idea that Muslim Kings ruthlessly oppressed Hindus.
No..that is all made up. Many temples were destroyed, I agree, But some Mosques too were looted because they bore costly stones on walls. Muslim Kings were criminals like any other. But they were superstitious and insecure too. They thought Allah will save them if they demolished Temples with IDOLS. But their acts have nothing to do with Islam. Islam does not advocate that behavior.
So, chapter of Kings must be forgotton as bad era without carrying over any Blames on one.
But if Hindus will aggressively insinuate without substantiating charges that Muslim kings were Bad because Islam made them so, then noway we will have peaceful relations.
