I have seen many people in this forum, arguing against reservation. I don't understand why this Forward people, who enjoyed the education and administrative advantage for many hundred years, not able to give a piece of opportunity the socially and educationally suppressed backward , SC/ST. The society should grow in inclusive way only. When we had many jobs in public sector and Govt, this reservation had not come through. Now after, everything is opened to private and Govt and public sector jobs are almost over, this reservation has come. Even if one gets into admission to IIT and IIMs, unless he perform well, he will not get job. Then , why the hell people are crying here ?
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by umesh d Javiya on Apr 10, 2008 11:15 PM Permalink
Yes My friend, I agree with you....totally... Just think about reservation.... The reports are not prepared by idiot people they are well experience government employees (Most of them have passed very big exams like IAS). so they have think that OBC class people are very less in government jobs as well as in privet sectors.... If you not realise this think...just look at your surrounding people.. I am sure there will be more than 50-60% bramhin people and other upper class will be 25-35 % people. And think what is the pupulation in whole country from upper class, (not more than 25%).
I read some where there are only 4% Brahmin in our country and ruling on 60% of higher level jobs in India including government sector and privet sectors.
Then what the hell is this democracy, this situation like English rulers English people were only 1% (may be less than 1%) in India, but they were ruling ..... Now situation is same but instead of English people they are now Brahmins who are ruling in all higher level jobs..
So, being a democratic country, Every body should have equal opportunity to go ahead. Yes I am agree with that some of us will heart from this new government law, but this is the democratic country. And the rich people should be excluded from this benefit, that what the government has done. Theoretically, it looks good OBC quota theory.
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by anand n on Apr 10, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
Fair point...Also reservation existed in other parts of the Globe too inlcuding in USA and Israel , when benefits has to reach needy
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by sumit saxena on Apr 10, 2008 09:53 PM Permalink
aabae tarae paas dimag nahi hai, nikamma hai, Gadha hai, metally handicapped hai. jaisae langdae ko baisakhi chaiyae hota hai, behrae ko hearing aid aisae hi bewakuf ko Reservation chahiyae. issi liyae tujhae reservation chahiyae. Majae ki baat to yeh hai ki aab sabhi tum logon ko khulae aam gali daengae aur SC nae uss par stamp bhi laga diya ki tu kuch nahi kar sakta zindagi mae.
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by Naveen on Apr 10, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
Yes man, These very same forward caste people once cried to the British to institute a separate third class for them and make them pass degree. Now these people are denying the same to their own citizens, which they have denied for 6000 years, from the very beginning of hinduism. Shame on these people.
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by Pavan on Apr 10, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
Denied eduation for 6000 yrs ?, dude before the brahmins most of India was tribal, i.e folks like the masai from Africa, the brahmins duty was to educate, ofcourse, no where in the world was there 100% literacy, so folks who did labour jobs could not get education, and by the way there have been many shudra kings for which the brhamins performed puja, so dont give any bullshit about that. Now if an inefficient candidate is given the oppurtunity, dont you think it is being wasted ?, just imagine the country's missile being developed by idiots and when the time comes to fire them, the explode right there !!!, i guess this is what the "majority" what, so be it ! om tat sath
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by Vijay B on Apr 10, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Let us assume that your claim that Brahmins put down everyone else for hundreds of years (it makes me laugh out while typing that out though!) in all fields.
Lets go ahead and vilify the Brahmins to the maximum possible extent.
Ok lets cut to the present.. so.. you're saying that, someone did something wrong then, so lets make the same mistake now.... Is that what you're saying?
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by anand n on Apr 10, 2008 09:52 PM Permalink
Hi , no one is talking anything bad about Brahmins ...they co exist very very well in South India with OBCs ( not counting the ones who left earlier to US/UK :-))
We ae only talking of helping people with dificulties in coming up in society ..
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by neha gtl on Apr 10, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
I agree with even if you give double seats to them they feel happy , but they don't want poor should get seat ,their idea study here and go abroad for earning and don't join in govt. jobs also . they never want equivality
RE:Why not Reservation ?
by kaushikeya jeta on Apr 10, 2008 10:24 PM Permalink
I am sorry for all my ancestor follies. i suppose i should(including all forward caste) should migrate to some european countries so that u all OBC's could live in peace.
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by A. Swaminathan on Apr 10, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
It does not mean that, all forward community should move out of india. Always, the people who are at better position should act like a big brother, not like a lion eating all the small animals. All these educated brahmins are mostly working for other countries only. Too selfish !!
