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  RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 11:35 PM   Permalink
It seems that you have no satisfactory answer. A a believer, you will not observe the flaws in the so-called holy books. Pl search for "The Skeptics Annotated Bible" It has category-wise verses like "Absurdities, Contradictions, Good Stuff, etc" Pl read and understand for yourslef.

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  RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:36 PM   Permalink
Faisal - understand the concept of Supreme Divine God in hinduism ...
He is paramatma - the one from whom all our souls originate and to whom we return on doing good deeds ... good Kkarma !

There is nothing like Allah will give you jannat with virgins/pearl boys ...
Such a God who gives u such enticements to be faithful is a false God ... Muhammed is the false prophet

ps no hurt intended

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  RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by RAZAK MOHAMED on Apr 01, 2008 11:35 PM   Permalink
Dear JGN,

I liked your approach. Who was waging the war. For that you need to study the history and learn who waged the war.

Islam is not only a relgion. It is a way of life which tells you how one has to conduct himself/herself in this world. The quoted verses were revealed for the conduct of war. I presume you are supposed to be a Hindu. And if you are a hindu, then I will give an example.

What did your Lord Krishna advise Arjuna when he was fightng against Karnan? Had the Pandavas not repelled the attack of Gauravas what would have been the history. Then, where is Bhagawat Gita. Which ruler in the history of mankind has advised his soldiers/followers, after securing emphatic victory on the battlefield, do not spoil green pastures, do not spoil water resouces, do not attack women, aged, children, do not cut trees et.

Dear friend, read history.

Do not get misguided.

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  RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:43 PM   Permalink
Umust read hostory ... Muhammed allowed his followers to have sexslaves (possessions of right hand), he married Juwahariyaan (after killing her husband/brother)
Also remember how Muhammed had all the men of Banu Quraysha slain ... he even allowed their wives/children to be taken as slaves !

Dont compare muhammed's actions with Kurukshetra warfare (where utmost respect was shown to prisoners-of-war )



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  RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 11:41 PM   Permalink
>>>>>>>>>Islam is not only a relgion.....yes I agree. It is more of a political ideology than religion. Islam is Arab imperialism. The Indian and Pak muslims are not considered as equals by the Arabs (now don't tell me that at Mecca all are allowed to pray together, etc)

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  RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 11:39 PM   Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>Lord Krishna advise Arjuna.........don't try to justify the absurdities in the Quran with some other absrud belief of the hindus. Mahabharata is an epic (story) and the author was partial to one family (as per the priciples of modern civil laws, the Pandavas were not entitled to rule the Kingdom)!

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  RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:50 PM   Permalink
@JGN:

Here u again let your disbeliefs take control over you .. All the places described in Mahbharat from Somnath, hastinapur,kurukshetra have geographical, genealogical proof to be considered historical and not just epic

And since yudhisthir was eldest brother, he was entitled to rule the kingdom


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  RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:50 PM   Permalink
@JGN:

Here u again let your disbeliefs take control over you .. All the places described in Mahbharat from Somnath, hastinapur,kurukshetra have geographical, genealogical proof to be considered historical and not just epic

And since yudhisthir was eldest brother, he was entitled to rule the kingdom


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by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:51 PM   Permalink
@JGN:

Here u again let your disbeliefs take control over you .. All the places described in Mahbharat from Somnath, hastinapur,kurukshetra have geographical, genealogical proof to be considered historical and not just epic

And since yudhisthir was eldest brother, he was entitled to rule the kingdom


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  RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by RAZAK MOHAMED on Apr 01, 2008 11:41 PM   Permalink
Dear JGN,

Despite all the answers, if you are not satisfied, then write to me mrazak1964@rediffmail.com.

May Almighty give you the REAL KNOWLEDGE and guide you on the sraight path.

Signing off for the day

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  RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 11:42 PM   Permalink
Yes, I will write to you. I like those who debate without using abuses. Thanks. Good night. I am also leaving for the day.

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  RE:RE:RE:@ RAZAK MOHAMED
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 11:45 PM   Permalink
@RAZAK, JGN:

U must read hostory ... Muhammed allowed his followers to have sexslaves (possessions of right hand), he married Juwahariyaan (after killing her husband/brother)

Also remember how Muhammed had all the men of Banu Quraysha slain ... he even allowed their wives/children to be taken as slaves !

Dont compare muhammed's actions with Kurukshetra warfare (where utmost respect was shown to prisoners-of-war )


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