Hogenakal Falls (Kannada:%u0CB9%u0CCA%u0C97%u0CC6%u0CA8%u0C95%u0CB2%u0CCD), (Tamil:%u0B92%u0B95%u0BCD%u0B95%u0BC7%u0BA9%u0B95%u0BCD%u0B95%u0BB2%u0BCD), bordering Chamarajanagar district of Karnataka state and Dharmapuri district of Tamil Nadu state, is one of the beautiful waterfalls in southern India on the Kaveri River. It is located 46 km from Dharmapuri and 150 km from Bangalore[1]. The name Hogenakal is derived from Kannada. When the water falls on the rocks it appears as if smoke is emanating from the rocks because of the force of the water. Hoge in Kannada means smoke and Kal means rock thus giving the name Hogenakal aptly to the place.[1]
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by mathura nathan on Apr 01, 2008 02:03 PM Permalink
I agree Hogenakal does not belong to tamilnadu alone rather it belongs to karnataka, andra, kerala,.. in fact to whole of the India. Just it is a name. Will you say that "Bay of bengal" belongs to Bengal alone since it has the name Bengal in it ? height of stupidity.
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 01, 2008 02:02 PM Permalink
Dear Srini, Kannada itself is derived from Baduga Tamil. 'Hoge' is modified from 'Pughai' meaning smoke. Kal is rock in Tamil too. 'Karnataka' is derived from "karu(mai) nadu" meaning land of black soil. Can TN claim the whole Karnataka as the word "Karnataka" is derived from two Tamil words?
RE:RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 01, 2008 02:03 PM Permalink
A name is never a good criteria for claiming.
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by Manju Seetharamu on Apr 01, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
Well, from which language Tamil was derived from? Dont say that by itself. You know the Answer I believe. Now you know that from monkey, human being happened. Now dont say that in Tamil Nadu itself the whole evolution took place. To dispute your claims, black means kappu in Kannada. If some words sound similar & they are quite matching in meaning & pronounciation that doesnot means one is inherited from other. You know one my Tamilian colleague was telling that Japanese & Tamil is exactly similar. Now dont say that Japanese is derived from Tamil. My friend, we live in Democracy so we have to take each other's consent & proceed on deciding the matter not just simply display the Hitlerism just to impress some section of people.
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by mathura nathan on Apr 01, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
you dont understand the previous argument. It was a counter argument and not for claiming that Karnataka belongs to Tamilnadu.
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 01, 2008 03:26 PM Permalink
Hello Manju, It was an argument put forth by me to emphasis that names cannot be a criteria for claiming power and to counter Mr. Sampige Srinivas argument that Hogenakkal belongs to Karnataka just because the name is derived from kannada words.
RE:Hogenakal Falls does not belong to TN alone.(Srini Bengaluru)
by Sampige Srinivas on Apr 02, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
Dear Mr/Mrs Saigeetha FYI Badaga language of Oooty is Kannada lanugage and Ooty and Niligiris distirict is a kannada area which has gone to TN because of the Cunning British who took it from Mysore Wodyars and Tippu and made it part of Madras Presidency and due to the TN politicians during State Reorganization.
Badaga is a variant of Kannada just ask the linguistic scholars about it don't just say what ever comes to your mind. Kannada is one of the oldest Dravidian lanugages and due to Cunning Tamilnadu Politicians it is not being given Classical Lanugage status by the Centre as they want to woo their alliance partner DMK. So don't telly silly things that Kannada is derived from Baduga Tamil. FYI Poge is old Kannada Hoge is New Kannada. Old Kannada and Tamil are derived from a Proto Dravidian Lanuage, so they are similar. Actually out of all the Dravidian Lanugages Kannada and Tamil are closely related. If Tamils stop acting Chauvinists then we both can become good friends, if not historically we are bitter enemies.
