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Hindu Friends...Please Listen.
by imran patel on Sep 25, 2007 11:50 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

I know this is an emotional subject but that does not mean we become animals.

Religion is a belief and nearly impossible to prove it in court. This applies to Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians etc.

People have the right to worship anyone they want and they have a right to have a belief or they can be atheist. That is guaranteed under the Constitution of India/Bharat.

The RAM Sethu is a National/State Property. The use of which will be decided by the Central and the state Government. Their decision can be challenged in the court.

People are comparing the Ram Sethu with Mecca and Medina. Fair Comparison. Both are places of worship and have religious significance to their respective believers/followers.

But the difference is that Mecca and Medina are administered by Muslim Governments and these places are dedicated by the government for religious purposes.

Now, if some Muslim in Spain claims a private/public property based on his religious beliefs, then he has to prove his belief in the court of the Land. That is the key difference.

If the Central/State government decide to make Ram Sethu a monument, fine with me. But this needs to be done in a correct way.

India is NOT a HINDU country and the belief of Ram's existence is NOT shared by all. Hence there will be legal issues.

Start thinking along these lines. Being emotional and ranting will not help your cause or the Nation.

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by ChalapathiRao Mudigonda on Sep 26, 2007 12:48 AM   Permalink
To Sri.Imran patel-You spoke wise and right, but we wish that your understanding of the term "Hindu" should be broader.The term "Hindu" is a historical derivative or corrupted form of
the word "Sindhu". Those who inhabited Sindhu pranth are "Sindhis" which as the time went on, came to be known as "Hindis or Hindus". So there is nothing wrong or religious, when we all- Hindus,Muslims, Parsis, christians, Sikhs,Budhists etc, are called Hindus which mean Indians. that is why, when our great patriot, Subhash Chandra Bose coined the word "Jai Hind" and our first Prime Minister,jawaharlal Nehru adopted and repeated it in the public meetings, none took objection. On the other hand the people felt proud and emotional to utter it as sacred and patriotic word. it is narrow to understand it as a word denoting or belonging to a particular religion. Let us be proud to call ourselves as "Hindus" that is, "Indians". History knows and states our land as Hindustan. let us be wise and enlightened to accept this fact and Truth.Then many problems ailing India and its Sisters Pakistan and Bangladesh will disappear. regarding belief in Ram sethu, it should not be treated as neither Hindu nor Muslim nor Christian nor Atheist. It is a National sentiment and monument like Taj Mahal, Golden Temple, Budha Gaya, Periyar Mandir in Chennai, Ambedkar statue any where, Tipus tomb, to quote a few. Let us respect each other; that's all;

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by Polisetty Ravishankar on Sep 25, 2007 11:59 PM   Permalink
gGood logic Imran. If we had put the same into our country's development instead of spreading terrorism then the world wold have been a better place. And actually thanks to you - You have mentioned an important point - You only wanted that INDIA needs to be renamed as a Hindu country. OK. Good suggestion. I will work towards that.

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by imran patel on Sep 26, 2007 12:09 AM   Permalink
If the Indian government is OK with having Ram Sethu as a National Heritage and wants to preserve it, I will respect that decision.

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by SSK KSS on Sep 26, 2007 12:04 AM   Permalink
Dear Muslim friend, please listen.
By the name itself, it is called Ram Sethu. Not India sethu or government Sethu. The sentiment is attached to the very name and it cannot be destroyed by any court because People's sentiments are respected and guaranteed by the constitution. Governments come and go and are ruled by few people who impose their personal views and we are against those handful of people.
BTW, Who are you to ask us to think in your lines of stupid thought?

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by imran patel on Sep 26, 2007 12:13 AM   Permalink
It is also called the ADAM'S BRIDGE.

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by derc cruse on Sep 25, 2007 11:56 PM   Permalink
Good reason. Will you let destroy Jama MAsjid with the same theory or let build a railway over cemetary if needed? Ram Setu is historical heritage-without experimenting it cannot destroyed just like we do not destroy the above things.

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by imran patel on Sep 26, 2007 12:07 AM   Permalink
Der Cruse,
If a Project comes up that requires the Jama Masjid to be destroyed, then the ONLY option is for the government to buy the land on which Jama Masjid.

Jama Masjid is not Owned by the government. This also involves property rights. If Muslims say that there was a MOSQUE at someone residence before, they cannot just take away that Land. The only option they have is to buy that land from its current owner. And you cannot force that person to sell his/her land your the Mosque.

It his is right to own that property. That right needs to be protected by the Govt.

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by Sarath Chandra on Sep 26, 2007 12:00 AM   Permalink
The problem with arguments like yours is that, Hindus will want to make India a Hindu country, officially. This is because as you said there is inherent "advantage" in being governed by "muslim governement". The world over only Muslim majority countries are "Muslim governments". There are virutally no christian or hindu governments in the world. Why cannot Islam do the same; separate governance and religion?

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by h h on Sep 25, 2007 11:59 PM   Permalink
Imran ..i see ur point ..If you say india is not a hindu country its not a muslim country ..In tha case would the muslims accept the judiciary system of india instead of theri "Talaaq Tallaq" ...No right ....What if governement says all the mosques should have prayers insisde teh mosque without loud speakers and shouldnt shout like mad dogs in the evening which is disturbing the people outside .So start thinking as an indian and tell would muslims accept such rules...



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by imran patel on Sep 26, 2007 12:11 AM   Permalink
I am in favor of common civil code. If Muslims want to follow Islamic LAW, then they need to do it within their community without Government supervision. I do not want government money to be spent on Muslims having a different set of LAWS from the common civil Laws

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by Hariom Rai on Sep 26, 2007 12:00 AM   Permalink
everything that muslim does is right and we cannot express our views , ur fellow muslims protest on trivial issues they make a riot out of a saddam issue who is not in anyways related to india,and trying to give philosophy about rationality,no law is above ur shariat but we shld follow all laws and shld respect all religions feelings wow what a secular comment!

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by imran patel on Sep 26, 2007 12:12 AM   Permalink
I have never supported actions of Muslims that you menation. I am infact critical of these actions.

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