Ram was a racist as are most of the Aryans. Here is the proof:
During his exile, he wandered all around India and he came across Dravidas in south Indian. He found the dark and not so hansom south Indians look so funny that he thought of them as monkeys; not as human beings. However, the diplomat in Rama made him strike a friendship with Dravida prince Sugreeva and then he helped hi to kill his brother Bali in the most shameful manner.
also, Ram was not able to consider the dark and huge people of Srilanka as human beings, instead he thought of them as Rakshasas, the fictional characters of his childhood stories.
Then, the integrity of Ram as a husband also is in doubt. He made Seeta walk through fire just because somebody doubted her chastity and then dumped her in the jungle!! How shameful an act from a man who is supposed to be the incarnation of God himself!!
RE:Ram was a racist
by pavan veldanda on Sep 26, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
People who ask for proof for Ram's existence should first ask the so called Dravidian parties and its followers to prove the "Aryan invasion theory" . No one has been able to prove so far that there was a war between Aryans and Dravidian, and that Aryans came somewhere from outside India.There was no signs, historic documents not there is any mention in any Mythological stories about it, still all these self proclaimed rationalists belief that theory. It is people like Periyar, Anna, and Karunanidhi and systamatically used this theory to devide and control people, fooled people by not allowing them to look at the other side of the story,by making it an emotional issue. No wonder people who follow idiots like Periyar would become the same.If any one has scentific, Historic or even Logical proof of Aryan Invasion theory, send it to wetheindians@gmail.com.
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by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
mr veldanda,if it were not for periyar,annadurai and karunanidhi,the entire so called scheduled classes and castes would have converted en masse to other religions. 30 % of hinduism had been suffocated and oppressed by the way hinduism had evolved by manipulations of the dominant landed class with the connivance of the brahmins. hinduism was saved by periyar and karunanidhi through the shock treatment given to the existent thinking. i can imagine people like u opposing the temple entry of lower castes in the 1940s.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Mahesh Balakrishnan on Sep 26, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
Dinesh, Hinduism was not saved by these Dravidian parties and these jokers,they used the caste system to rule the state and divide politics,inspite of them ruling TN for over 40 years ,they have been unable to remove reservations for the Sc/ST castes?they should have provided reservation on economic means in Tn at least have they? They should have provided reservations for Brahmins in TN as they are the ones in minority in Tn and economically backward. Hinduism can not be saved by a few jokers whether DMK,Karuna or BJP or VHP,it's a great religion by itself and can survive,most people who convert are either due to economic hardships where they are provided economic benefits by foreign sources or marriage reasons .
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by Arvind Singh on Sep 26, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Let them get converted, the main aim of hinduism is to attain salvation, Every one is hindu in this land, he may follow any religion to attain Gods blessing. The person who is following a religion is following another human being's path like path of Rama, Jesus, Mohammad, Gautam Buddha, Mahavir Jain, Guru Nanak, Confesus, Vedantics (or the name given as Hindu) are free to choose any path they may follow Ram or Krishna or both or any one else, there are many gurus who take people along with them, some do it themselves etc. The main aim of the life of a human being is to live 4 quarters of life in order of a principle given by Manu called Manu Sanskriti (Principle of Humans(Manusyas life), Ravana devised Rakta Sankriti followed by terrorists/Rakshasas(distorted Human)- Some are still living today. All Indian races are born in this country, no one has come from outside who is a Vedantic(hindu).All theories are propounded by britishers and britsh loving people.
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by Shubham on Sep 26, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
By the way, is there scientific, Historic or even Logical proof that Ram existed? The epic of Ramayan very well could be just a folklore!
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by Mahesh Balakrishnan on Sep 26, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
Shubham: Does darkness exist?It's the opposite of light,similalry good exists because evil exists,you do not need science to justify faith or religion,there is enough Historical fact that Ram existed,same can be said of Christianity or Islam or other religions. What proof do you have that you exist?You are just a manifestation?Did you come from an Ape?or Adam or eve?If all humans are brothers and sisters,then why are you comitting incest? If you are a Hindu,believe in your faith or at least in goodness of fellow humans and nature including animals,if you follow other religion,believe in them,as all religion is a matter of faith and say good to one another. the differences are created by idiots of all religion. Do good to others !
RE:Ram was a racist
by Shubham on Sep 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
God is actually the ultimate truth. Knowing that truth is the salvation. Every religion and to some extent science are ways of trying to know that truth. For science, God is an ultimate equation, that clearly explains the existence of universe.
Even with long headstart the religion got in understanding the truth, it faltered somewhere down the line due to lack of flexibility to adopt to changing views and new truths. Science is now leading that path to salvation, with all its weaknesses.
Once we get to know that truth, then we will become GOD.
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by Sreeram Ramaswamy on Sep 26, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
When you know this much about salvation, why do you question Ramayana? Check yourself if you're anywhere near questioning the epics, which is revered by crores of Hindus. If you don't want to believe, at least don't insult the believers. This is the minimum you and the jokers of DMK and other so-called "secular" parties can do to the Hindus, nothing much.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Avinash on Sep 26, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
You know during even lord rama time, the rakshasha thought about him the same way. This is not knew for him.
We dont want to break our heads discussing with rakshasha like you.
But one thing from your article you confirm that he existed.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Shubham on Sep 26, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
All epics are written based on myths and legends with its loose base on folklores about persons who actually existed. Ram might have existed. My argument is not on that, but about the character of Ram.
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by mukesh dayal on Sep 26, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
this is a clear manipulation of facts... it seems u hv come after meeting RAM.. wt u hv written is false propaganda being spread by idiots of DMK... hinduism is more than RAM...n dont try to compare n make a story about sth which occurred millions of years ago... this is an attempt to divide hindus.... yes with the passage of time there hv come many deseases within hinduism n we youth of todays india need to carry out reforms at the earliest... but despite all its minus points hinduism is not a subject to ridicule...
RE:Ram was a racist
by Sreeram Ramaswamy on Sep 26, 2007 01:51 PM Permalink
So, you're re-writing Ramayana? Nice imaginations. If wishes were horses, even beggars would ride on it.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Arvind Singh on Sep 26, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
How shameful of you to have cooked this story. The people in south are able to live peacfully because he got the place free of those people who believed in Rakta Samskriti (the terrorist or Rakshash) I hope u also want the world to be free from terrorists. The inhabitants of all land have good people and were being tortured or scared by bad people. Your US is also trying to eliminate the bad people (or what they are thinking is bad for their country) but the difference is that he created them also at first place. I hope you get attain sense to feel God.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Shubham on Sep 26, 2007 02:12 PM Permalink
where did the question of south and north come here, Mr. Arvind? BTW, how do you defend my accusation that Ram ditched Sita just because somebody doubted her chastity?
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by Arvind Singh on Sep 26, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
Because you have to be virtuous as a ruler to the subject, no subject should have the ill feeling towards the ruler and Sita was being doubted by one of his subject so he took the step to send her to Vana (he didnot ditch)- he wanted all its subject to be happy, which ruler today wants its subjects to be happy before him.
RE:Ram was a racist
by nila jena on Sep 26, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
is it all your assumptions.now see .Ram became friend with sugriba.never insisted sugriva to assist him.though Himself capable of killing Ravana(who was waiting for salvation),took the team of monkeys with him.never considered them inferior.
RE:Ram was a racist
by Ramakrishna Panicker on Sep 26, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
Over and above, if we go through into Ramayanam we can see it is filled with precious perls of human who preaches their lives for humanity.
No problem we believe in God or not, being human, we love each other and spread peace through out the world. Not kill others in the name of caste or religion, for wealth and oil field.
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by Shubham on Sep 26, 2007 02:24 PM Permalink
Ram killed Bali, the right heir of his kingdom, on request of Sugreeva just for wealth.
