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DEAR rajmohan kurup: My answer for your question
by sridhar gorantla on Sep 26, 2007 02:02 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

DEAR Rajmohan KRUPP: Think in below way:

BODY-MIND(individaul counciousness)-SOUL at an individual level.
MATERIAL CREATION(Entire universe including everything that is material)-UNIVERSAL MIND(OR COUNCIOUSNESS)-PARAMATMAN

THIS PARAMATMAN IS EVER EXISTENT, ALL PERVADING WITH NO BEGINNING, NO END AND NO MIDDLE AS WAS AFFIRMED BY LORD KRISHNA IS BHAGAVAD GEETHA.

HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

SO, IN THE HIGHEST LEVEL, EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE IS ALL PERVADING GOD. ITS JUST THE MAYA OR SAITAN OR SATAN OR ILLUSION THAT MAKES ONE SEE OR PERCEIVE THE UNDIVIDED UNIVERSALNESS AS THE DIVIDED AND INDIVIDUAL. JUST LIKE THE NAKED EYE ILLUDES YOU TO SEE MATTER AS DIFFERENT FORM WITH DIFFERENT PROPERTIES AT THE APPARENT LEVEL BUT WHEN YOU LOOK IN TO THE SAME MATTER WITH A POWERFUL MOCROSCOPE, THE SAME MATTER IS DECLARED AS NOTHING BUT INFINITELY EXISTENT ENERGY(MODERN NUCLEAR PHYSICS).

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  RE:DEAR rajmohan kurup: My answer for your question
by Rajmohan Kurup on Sep 26, 2007 03:02 AM   Permalink
Dear Sridhar,

Thank you for your reply. But I think you missed the central point I made earlier. Why does God have to come under the control of Maya? Please try to understand - God or Brahman means the greatest or the Supreme. Maya, Shaitan or illusion cannot overpower Brahman and put Him in illusion. If that were to happen then the very word God would not have any meaning.
Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita, chapter 15, verse 7 that "mamaivmsha jiva loke...... meaning, " The living entities in this conditioned world are My eternal fragmental parts. Due to conditioned life, they are struggling very hard with the six senses, which include the mind." Here Krishna uses the word, "sanatana" which means eternal. So the living entities struggling in this world with the five senses and mind are God's parts and parcels, but eternally (sanatana) different from Him. Krishna does not say that the living entities merge into Him at any time. He confirms this earlier also in the Gita, chapter 2, text 12 in the verse when He tells Arjuna,
"na tv evaham jatu nasham
na tvam neme janadipah
na chaiva na bhavishyamah
sarve vayam atah param" which reads,
"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."


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  RE:RE:DEAR rajmohan kurup: My answer for your question
by Rajmohan Kurup on Sep 26, 2007 03:03 AM   Permalink
reply continued:

Krishna does not tell Arjuna that after liberation, after their covering of illusion is removed, either Arjuna or any of the kings will cease to exist. Individuality of the soul is eternal, that is what Krishna is telling Arjuna here. But after moksha or liberation, the individual soul becomes one with the Supreme in his purpose - he does not do anything that is not in connection with the Supreme. Krishna or God's name is asamurdhva which means nobody is either equal to or greater than God. This is not my philosophy but it is the same timeless philosophy enunciated by all great teachers down the ages - Sri Ramanajacharya, Sri Madhvahcarya, Sri Vishnuswami, Sri Nimbarkacharya and even for that matter Jesus Christ, though he did it in ways suitable to the particular situation and circumstances where he appeared.

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