All religions - no exception - are based on nonsense. One person comes up with an idea, scribbles it on parchment, and before long it becomes "ancient wisdom." The more people who believe in the nonsense the more "holy" it becomes. Hey, before long it's "Divine Wisdom!" And so you ask yourself, "What really is truth?"
The truth is that all religions are man made and the religious people are the most stupid and dangerous people on the planet.
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by baba on Sep 24, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Do not Pls put bad messages abt Prophet Mohammed or any other religion. Wwhy blame Muslims. Blame Hindus who are not united.
Ram, Allah, Jesus respect all that is what a true Hindu will do.
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by Prabasi Sur on Sep 24, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
What stupid school of thought you belong to? If religions are man made and so shud be discarded then how you accept this man made medium (computer network) to propagate your views. Or, are you going to preach your new sermon to initiate your own religion? My child, try to think before you talk.
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by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Only people with sense can undersatnd what I have said. Ur brain is polutted with religion so u have stopped using it.Dont follow blindly like a robot.
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by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 01:03 PM Permalink
Only people with sense can undersatnd what I have said. Ur brain is polutted with religion so u have stopped using it.Dont follow blindly like a robot.
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by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
SHUT UP. JUST BECAUSE SOME FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM DID BEHAVE OR BEHAVING LIKE ANIMALS DOESNOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO ACCUSE EVERYONE INCLUDING PROPHET. LORD KRISHNA(ALL PERVADING DIVINITY IN HUMAN FORM) AFFIRMS THAT I WILL COME ON TO EARTH WHENEVER AND WHEREEVER THERE IS ADHARMA. PROPHET IS SUCH A SAINT WHO CAME TO ARAB WORLD TO MAKE THEM LEARD OF WHAT IS THE TRUTH IN LIFE. SO, INSLUTING SUCH SAINT IS NOT THE WAY TO GO AHEAD. I AGREE THAT ISLAMIC MANIACS IN THE PAST AND EVEN NOW MISUSING RELIGION FOR SATISFYING THEIR EGO, INSTEAD OF SILENYLT SEEKING THE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD OR ALLAH OR PARAMATMA, BUT THEY WILL BE DEALT WITH IN THE LANGUAGE THEY UNDERSTAND BY THE GOD THYSELF AND HIS TOOLS LIKE MOTHER EARTH, WIND WATER, FIRE e.t.c NATURE FORCES IF THINGS ARE BEYOND OUR REACH. BUT WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO HURT THE GENUINE GOD LOVERS OF ALL RELIGIONS.
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by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 24, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Tell me How Much your father Took to convert himself.I will give you double than that to revert you back.Actually For people like you,Only Money is God.That's y most of your women works as secretary & usually flirts with the Bosses.Change yourself.Dont Preach Nudity & Vulgarity which is deeply enshrined in your Hearts.
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by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
CONTINUED: This is the highest state and anyone who attains this state can be referred to as GOD, since even though there is a body for this individual, the individual doesnot have a perception that he/she is is a body or limited, but is an unlimitedness and all pervading and ever living one.
Above states are based on a time base. Where, sometimes, the individual can experience the above stage 2 or stage 3 even for a moment if not all the time. But, still this kind of people can be seen as being known of GOD. But those who can at will attain the above 2 or 3 stages can be called as the ones who are free from the illusion of the maya or creation or Satan or Saitan. but those who are in stage 3 irrespective of time are the ones who are no different than GOD and should be treated as ALL PERVADING DIVINITY THYSELF. We see above stages in the lives of saints of all religions since time immemorial.
IF YOU LOOK AT TEH LIVES OF SAINTS OF ALL RELIGIONS WHO ATTAINED 3rd LEVEL OF ENLIGHTMENT, YOU WILL FIND TO YOUR AMAZEMENT, THAT THEY ALL SPOKE OF SAME THING CALLED GOD OR PARAMATMA OR ALLAH OR HEAVENLY FATHER OR THE UNIVERSAL POWER. SO, DONOT FIGHT LIKE A FOOL IN THE NAME OF GOD. SINCE WE DONOT HAVE REACHED THE DESTINATION YET, WE ARE NOT REALIZING THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH ABOU THE EXISTENCE OF ALL PERVDING DIVINITY ADN ARE FIGHTING AMONG US. HOW FOOLISH IS THIS?
EVEN MODERN SCIENCE IS AFFIRMING THIS TRUTH BY DECLARING THAT ALL MATTER IS NOTHING BUT ALL PERVADING INFINITE ENERGY
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by swisdom on Sep 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Sridhar, I agree with you that GOD is full of energy and it is through this energy that everything was created but I don't agree with you on the point that Humans can become GOD. Even through there are many Gods & Lords, humans are created by GOD - JEHOVAH and no matter to whatever stages you go we can't achieve divinity & energy like GOD possess. To compare ourselves who possess destructible bodies with GOD who is for time indefinite is not real. I have a thought for you to ponder on "Why do other living beings not pray & only humans pray in all religions?". I agree that we should all live in peace & harmony with each other because that's what GOD wants us to do no matter what religion.
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by csoupramanien on Sep 24, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
TAMIL COMMUNITY AND IT'S THOUGHTS ARE BEYOND TIMES. PERIYAR E V RAMASAMY WITNESSED THAT TRUTH AND TAUGHT THE TAMIL SOCIETY TO REMOVE THE CAST AND RELIGION DIVIDES. SO AS TAMILS WILL PRAISE THEIR OWN GODS AND TEMPLES AND LIKE TO GO WITH DRAVIDIAN PRICIPLES SAME TOGETHER. DRAVIDIAN PRINCIPLE IS PURELY BASED ON NATURE. WE WORSHIP NATURE AND GO WITH NATURE BUT NOT WITH RELIGION AND BLIND FAITH. BRAMHANISM WAS LONG BEFORE DEAD IN TAMIL COMMUNITY. SO TALKING ABOUT RAM OR ALLA WILL NOT MAKE ANY CAUSE IN THAT HOLY LAND. AFTER RAM..........BUDHA, MAHAVIRA,ADISANKARA WERE BORN AND TAUGHT THE REALITY OF OUR OWN SO CALLED 'HINDUISM' IN MODERATE WAY, BUT STILL MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE IS LIVING IN RAM ERA IS SAD ONE. AS NORTH WAS FOCUSSED ON BUILDING RAM TEMPLE IN AYODHYA, HERE AT SOUTH WE ESTABLISHED SOFTWARE MOVEMENTS TO PUSH OUR INDIAN ECONOMY. WHEN U PEOPLE INTERESTED IN EXECUTING GUJARAT RIOTS, HERE AT SOUTH WE ARE KEEN ON PURA PRJECTS AND E-EDUCATION AND E-GOVERNANCE. BEWARE DIVISIVE FORCES, TAMIL LAND IS NOT FOR YOU.........INVADE THE LAND WHERE FOOLS ARE LIVING...
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by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Hindu Vedic Scriptures & ALL RELIGIONS affirm this: Everything and everyone in this world is GOD, but its just that the individual doesnot realize this truth. God is not limited to a particular place or location or a person, but is an allpervading divinity that has no beginning, no end or no middle and is existent with in the creation as well as beyond the creation. Due to the illusion caused by Maya or Saitan or Satan or the duality of the nature, the ever present all pervading divinity appears to be divides and independent and this is an illusion, while there is only one thing when you are higly enlightened. Below thing applies to individuals who are in the process of regaining the initial state of oneness: 1. in the initial stages, the individual(be it human or animal or any other individuality) perceives the GOD or Divinity as some power that is located in a place or limited to a body and thus see GOD OR DIVINITY in a temple or a Mosque or in a Church or even in an ideal or principle as in the case of Atheist. 2.In the intermediary stages, the same individual perceives oneself as part and parcel of the universalness or ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD. Examples of this stage are like seeing or perceiving GOD as Mother or as Father or as a Master or some other entity who includes the individuality. 3.In the third and final stages, the individual perceives no difference between the ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD AND THE SELF.
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by Sanjeev on Sep 24, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
What you say is Advaita which is proved to be superceded by Dwaita. Get your knowledge checked through various debates starting from Tirumangai Azhwar to Vedanta desikan. Listening to Guru will do a lot good for our thinking than to ramble whatever comes to our mind.
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by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
FUNNY. I AM TALKING THIS BY WAY OF MY EXPERIENCES THAT CANNOT SHAKE MY CONVICTIONS THAT I WRITE HERE. MERE DEBATE WILL NOT YIELD GOD. ONLY UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WILL YIELD DIVINITY TO US. AND THIS LOVE TO ALL FOR ONESELF AND OTHERS WHERE WE REALIZE THAT ALL ARE ONE AND SAME AS OURSELF IS WHAT THE ESSENCE OF ALL RELIGIONS. WHEN THERE IS DWAITA, THEN THERE IS NO QUESTION OF LOVE WITH ONENESS. LOVE THAT DOESNOT YIELD ONENESS TO US OF WHAT WE LOVE IS NOT CALLED LOVE AT ALL. I HAVE ACCESS T CHRIST/KRISHNA LIKE SAINTS NOW EVEN IN THIS 21st CENTURY, WHO ARE FREE FROM THE CLUTCHES OF THE LIFE AND DEATH AND THAT OF THE 3 dimensions of space and 4th dimension of time. SHOW ME ANY SAINT WHO DOESNOT AFIRM OF WHAT I SAY IS TRUE. ANYONE WHO FREES THEMSELVES FROM THE CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH ARE THE ONES WHO CAN BE MY GURU, AND NOT THE ONES WHO CAN JUST TALK OF LOGIC, WHICH IS ONLY LIMITED TO THIS CREATIONN AND NOT THE CREATOR, JUST LIKE THE WAY LOGIC IN A MOVIE PERTAINS T THE MOVIE WATCHER AND ACTORS IN THE MOVIE AND NOT THE MOVIE PRODUCER. GOD IS BEYOND LOGIC BROTHER.