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Govt (Congress party) is not tranparent about the N-deal.
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Sep 23, 2007 07:37 AM   Permalink | Hide replies


I think BJP should support the deal. But problem is Govt (congress) is not trasparent
about the deal.

Moreover they even do not go for the extensive debate and vote.
That would be healthy democracy.
Joint Parliamenttary committee would be another healthy approach.
If Vajpayee or Narashimha Rao would been there, then could take most intellegent approach.
But MMShing is a puppet PM, he cann't go beyond Sonia Maino...Because she does not like BJP or
respect opposition.

Here Congress is doing some dangerous mistake and they cann't and should not say "no
international deal should pass through the parliament" What a nonsense logic ! Then
whatever other country tell India, India should
sign the deal....NOT ACCEPTABLE any time...



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  RE:Govt (Congress party) is not tranparent about the N-deal.
by ASHOK on Sep 23, 2007 09:43 AM   Permalink
Both Govts ( India & US) have posted the agreement on NET. It has never happenned
in the past between India & RUSSIA (so many
Deals have been signed)

And You are talking about transparency.

Rather it is this transperancy that every TOM & DICK is giving comments and thinks himself or herself as expert on Nuclear Technology.

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by ASHOK on Sep 23, 2007 09:43 AM   Permalink
PLEASE LEAVE SOMETHING FOR EXPERTS.

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by suresh keval on Sep 23, 2007 10:35 AM   Permalink
Mr. Ashok, posting the Nuclear agreement on the web doesn't make the deal transparent. in US the deal had to go through tough challenge within its parliament. All the democratically elected respresenatives whether ruling(republican) or opposition(democratic party) voted for or against the deal. What happened in our Indian parliament? forget about opposition even coalition memebers were also not taken into confidence. is this transparency? Our stupid PM even tried to play emotinal game by saying he will resign. Running a country's govt is not child's play. Just get upset and threaten to resign? What sort of leadership is that? you talk about EXPERTS? which experts? Even the Indian scientist community is against the deal. they are EXPERTS. not congress party members.

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by raj on Sep 24, 2007 09:09 PM   Permalink
suresh keval , you simply said so many scientists oppose the deal? How many ? Can you be more clear. As far as I know there are two
scientist , they are MR.KARAT and BARDHAN, BY THE WAY THERE ARE SO MANY EXPERTS SUPPORTED THE DEAL TOO. YOUR COMMIES ARE THE MAJOR PROBLEM.YOU SAID 'RUNNING A COUNRTY IS NOT LIKE A CHILDS PLAY' YOUR COMMUNIST LEADERS LOOK WORSE THAN THAT. YOU ARE JUST US HATER. HATE IS NOT GOING TO HELP.

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by suresh keval on Sep 25, 2007 05:20 AM   Permalink
first of all let me applaud you for coming to a straight conclusion that I am a Commie supporter. It is so typical of Indian mentality to jump to such conclusions and digress from the topic at hand. I am not at all surprised by this blatant oversight on your part. Its only expected. I am surprised that it came so late.

Okay now to your point, Now we are talking! okay honestly I did not know the exact number of scientists who supported/opposed the deal. Ofcourse there is some good & some bad in this deal and yes there will be supporters in scientific community. And thats fine too. All along my point has been WHY THE HECK SHOULD A FOREIGN POLICY BE DECIDED BY A BUNCH OF MINISTERS OF A RULING PARTY? ESPECIALLY A POLICY THAT HAS TO DO WITH POTENTIAL LOSS OF ABILITY TO CONDUCT FUTURE TESTS? FINE IT WAS CLARIFIED, BUT WHEN? VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS.
My only point is... when it comes to deal with another country, all elected representative's opinion should be considered. We are not living under dictatorship.

Oh by the way I just love US.

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by ASHOK on Sep 23, 2007 12:00 PM   Permalink
India is 60 year old Democracy.
Constitution is in place for almost 57 Years.

Our way of clearing an agreement with Foreign Country needs cabinet approval and that is what MM Singh did.
If you want the deal to be changed than make necessary changes, do not blame Congress or MMSingh.

Otherwise Commies hate USA, now why do you want to follow US way of passing an International deal.

Why it has taken BJP / Commies 57 years to wake up to the reality that Such deals are passed on Cabinet approval.



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by suresh keval on Sep 23, 2007 07:55 PM   Permalink
I want to follow the US way of passing an international deal because it allows for all stake holders(elected representatives) to have a say. What is cabinet? only ruling party? then there is no choice for opposition even if they spoke 2 years ago. Also the posting on the web you are talking about didnot happen in 2005. so nothing was made known to opposition parties. There is a fundamental flaw in our process. If you do not want to follow US way then atleast follow the democracy way. Only cabinet approval basis is clearly flawed.

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by ASHOK on Sep 23, 2007 12:03 PM   Permalink
Also note that it is Year 2005 since MM Singh started dialogue with Bush and US Govt.

Finally the deal will be signed or cleared the way it has been done in India was already known to BJP & Commies if not to Common Man.

BJP & Commies are in Parliament and they know the procedure, why they kept MUM for last 2 years. Now why they have come out of their sleep or Dreams, they could sleep for another 2 years.





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