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by siva kumar on Sep 16, 2007 05:24 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Hello Imaran patel!
our constitution calls India as bharath instead of hindustan because it was written by big hearted Hindu leaders. because their religion taught them tolerance. even though Hindus were chased away from their own homeland claiming that too be pakistan, muslims from this side of the border drawn by an Englishman were allowed to live here in honour again because of the magnanimity and tolerance of Hindu religion. But the situation today makes everyone to rethink whether the ungrateful unpatriotic Muslims deserve such courtesy.The problem with them is not all of them are anti social but the all of them protect such anti social and anti national elements among them because of their religion.
Hinduism with all its differences which an oldest religion bound to have does not teach to kill the non beleivers of it and there is no habit of issuing fatwas, public hangings in the name of their God.
Most muslims may realise the barbaric practices followed by their religions but dare not to speak fearing violent elements in their society. Indian Muslims have to realise though they follow a religion started in deserts by murderous nomadic tribes Indian Muslims dont have such background.So all the teachings in their holy book are not applicable in India Where great reformers like Buddha and Mahaveer has lived 1000 years before prophet. We have nothing to be taught by an illiterate camel grazer. so follow your religion dont follow which are not applicable in Indin context

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by Bhartendu Sharma on Sep 16, 2007 06:23 PM   Permalink
Dear Imran,

Try to find your past who was you? You were a hindu and your family was forced by mughals to convert your religion.


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by karteik kotagiri on Sep 16, 2007 05:55 PM   Permalink
very well said. out standing!! the last two lines were very good

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by suhail khan on Sep 16, 2007 06:01 PM   Permalink
Dear Siva,

It%u2019s amazing that a person who differentiates mankind on the basis of caste, Jati and color is teaching us how to follow the religion. Does u understand the meaning of the word of religion? What tolerance you are talking about. You are killing your own brothers on the name of religion on the name of cast and on the name of Jati. If you are so tolerant will you allow your daughter to marry a scheduled caste person or will u accept a girl from chamar jati as your daughter in law. Still in many part of India lower caste people are not allowed to enter the temple of upper caste people.
For your information Islam is universal religion. It dose not talk of boundaries it talks about universal brotherhood. It leads to ultimate salivation of mankind. You always talk about patriotism but unfortunately most of the people flow this word in writing only. Nobody can be more patriotic then Muslims as Islam teaches to love country, its people and motherland.


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by dharmesh vyas on Sep 16, 2007 06:13 PM   Permalink
Islam teaches : JEHAD that is terrorism for achieving Islamic goals.

Killing of innocent people by many ways.

Islam is teaching kill if Kaffir (other then islamic people) do not follow islam religion.

Islam is religion followed under constant fear.

Womens are treated as sex toy - just to produce kids and for pleasure and to have more pleasure go for more then one.

Each muslim knows their BURI NAJAR so they always hide their ladies under Burkha.

Islam does not permit bad habits, But in smuggling, money laundering, hawala, prostitution, commission agent, chori, haram ki kamai, terrorisam, stamp paper scam, land mafia, drugs business everywhenre you will find Muslim's contribution.

If you want to know Islam more then I will give you page no. of SURA - as content is so vulger that this forum will not like.

Give me your e-mail id i will send you for your persual.

Ramzan Mubarak



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by suhail khan on Sep 16, 2007 06:45 PM   Permalink
Dear Dharmesh,

You seems to be very frustrated with Islam and Muslims. The reasons can be many but why you people always refer some of the verses of Quran and then claim ur self as scholars of religion. Every verse of the Quran is having specific background and you have to understand that verse in that background. OK you can not understand this since the truth is that this poison is injected in your veins and you will spill this when ever you get chance. Whether it is in form of insulting religion or killing innocent people in Gujarat.

If you want your wife and daughter to roam around naked then who bothers but why you are gelious of Muslim women wearing burka.

Islam has given women the ultimate respect. It protects women%u2019s from traitors and false religion followers like you.

You can not blame Islam for bad things done by some of the handful of Muslims. In prostitution, smuggling and other vices all religion people are involved you can not pin point Muslims only.
There are many Hindus who take bribe, drink alcohol, and enjoy the money from the coffins of our soldiers who has died for the country. Rapes women and make them unmarried mothers and so on.

Viyas stop throwing stones on others when you are living in glass house.


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by karteik kotagiri on Sep 16, 2007 06:09 PM   Permalink
suhail, islam talks abt brother hood of muslims not human beings. It differentites between believers of it and non believers of it. bhagavad gita,vedas, upanishads do not talk abt caste. Also many hindus these days dont bother abt caste.

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