yesterday i watched national geography channel in which it was showing that how the earth was born(some gas clouds met together and at the end, the high pressure attain consequently the cluster form of gas bursted which produced so many particles(compare to the universe earth is a particle). this is science, but in puranas(story)it has been reeled that earth was produced by god. obviously jesus born and served for oppressed people to come out from slaveness. my opinion jesus also not a god but he was living as superhero and died for people. he can be thanked throught our life. nabi also was living as human and spread amidts people good thoughts but he used god name that he(god) only sent him(nabi) to spread these things, because, only then the people will hear, thatswhy he used god name(allah). but allah i dont know. budha,mahavir,gurunanak,mkg... they were living and did good thing for people. but who is ram and what he did for people espepcially suppressed people i dont know.
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by prashant sharma on Sep 27, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
how can u know? u dont have the brains for it. by the way your english needs serious working on dude. Lord Ram ate fruits from Shabri, a tribal. He made best friends with A boatman of low caste. He did these things as he wanted to show that the lord des not believe in evil like caste system. All these stories about shambukha killed by Lord RAM are ENTIRELY FALSE. There is NOT A SINGLE REFERENCE in valmiki Ramayan. This is just demonic propaganda. Then the Lord gave this world ideals of being a devoted son, who went to forest. he killed the evil DEMONS like Ravana and kumbhkarna and SAVED THE WORLD FROM THEIR ATRCITIES. Then he showed the world the power of MERCY, by returning LANKA to VIBHSHANA. The lord could have kept Lanka, but he said, I DONOT BELIEVE IN TAKING OVER OTHE KINGDOMS AND MAKING THEM SLAVES. This is a principle which India still follows. The crux of the matter is that beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder! If you look at A STONE with faith yOU will see GOD. IFYOU LOOK AT EVEN LORD RAM WITH THE HATE FED TO YOU SINCE YOUR CHILDHOOD,YOU WILL SEE THE SAME HATRED THAT YOU FEEL.
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by Manickam on Sep 27, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
if you copy and paste a untruth message again and again that cannot become a true. whether ravana was treating the lankans as slave? if rama killed ravana because of ravana misbehavier, then where was rama when the people were tortured by hitler?(you could have read what type of torture mr.hitler did on people, especially even he did not left one or two year old babies.) who also should have been punished by ur god. in history there are so many incidents in so many places like what and how hitler tortured people. e.g mughals when capturing and during ruling india they forced the people for conversion(religious), britishers invation and torture of people for conversion. where were ur god? these e.gs which are taken place within two thousand years. whether ur god requires yugas to take next incornation? then, what about these history worst incidents!! think and give answer, dont panic, cool and answer, if it is true i am going to accept provided it is proven. my english may be misaligned but u can understand my point.
If you do not belive in Ram or God ,it is up to you. But one thing certain if u say Ram and Ramayan is Fake only Myths ,then why so many Temples which are built thousands of years old are still in our country.Do you think that is also fake.Also God - Ram never born as God he is being glorified as God becuase of his Golrifying deeds during is life time.So many of you many of you may have born (including my self) during the time of Gandhiji or Swami Veivekananda and Ramakrishna Pramahamsha and Ramalingam swamigal and Ragevendra Swamigal and Shirdi Sai Baba. But your forefathers might have seen them.You mean to say they not Godly peopel.If you say like that,then how do you know who is your father or mother.(even DNA test can say only clad not you are exactly born to your mother or father) If you trust your father as your father then Ram also God,if you trust your as your mother then RAm is God. Sorry I havn't written in offensive way.For athesit this is one of the way to prove about God
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by Manickam on Sep 28, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
mr. ashish singh you just read encyclopedia about ramayana in which cleary written that the period of ramayana when it is written by valmiki. sita also lived with valmiki. the period of battle between ravana and rama has been stated lakhs of years ago. you just understand my point which tells the confliction of periods. still if you say the people that time lived long(about lakhs of years), then i just withdraw everything. i cannot argue with blind mind.
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by ashish singh on Oct 01, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Dear Mnickchem, Ok I am blind mind come to science, Can u answer these questions ,what is magnetism?? Who controls heart beating and nervous system?? what is death??
Same way my point is who told to Valmiki or Tulsidas in the ancient period to write these type of proofs like Ramsetu presense, Bermuda tringle like place presense etc. Who had given exact geographical info to Valmiki and Tulsidas in Ramayana (In your view Ramayana Story). Boss think about that period even period before some thousand years no body was aware about this whole world, how that guy (Valmiki and Tulsidas) knew all those things. I am not telling you blindly believe on Ram, but try to search some mystries on Ramayana.
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by Manickam on Sep 28, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
mr.sundaram, i have read about our father of nation and his character which i follow very much. i have read about swami's vivek,parama,ramalinga who have tought people good thoughts which require for human life. i seen my mother who shown my father(dont say father is a belief like rama which can be very much suitable for u and ur fraternity). if DNA is not much clear evidence then how some cases like two mother own one child was adjudged. if dna can be ploughed then there will be so much confusion. i have seen my grandfather-mother. if i have to know my forefathers then i have to ask my grandpa. it may be(about forefathers) available in notes also. i am from south i know so many filthy languages. mind it.
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by Manickam on Sep 28, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
mr.sundaram, i have read about our father of nation and his character which i follow very much. i have read about swami's vivek,parama,ramalinga who have tought people good thoughts which require for human life. i seen my mother who shown my father(dont say father is a belief like rama which can be very much suitable for u and ur fraternity). if DNA is not much clear evidence then how some cases like two mother own one child was adjudged. if dna can be ploughed then there will be so much confusion. i have seen my grandfather-mother. if i have to know my forefathers then i have to ask my grandpa. it may be(about forefathers) available in notes also. i am from south i know so many filthy languages. mind it.
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by shubhankar sharma on Sep 27, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
where was christ when hitler was torturing jews? where was virgin mary when mughals massacred lakhs? do youget the point? Gods job is not to be everywhere at all the time! in case of hitler the lord lent his strenghth to the british and americans. in case of mughals, the lord lent his strength to guru gobind singh and shivaji. the lord will come when the time is ripe. when evil becomes so strong that a reincarnation is needed SUCH WAS THE CASE WITH RAVANA. your question was so idiotic that i had difficulty in answering but i did nevertheless. You call Ram 'My God' who is yours manickam? do you have a 'God'? Is it jesus now? or have you left the idea of god behind and started the climb up the mountain of atheists? Now my answer was VERY COOL. Depends on your udnerstanding from here on!
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by Manickam on Sep 27, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
u just read my statement(in white) about jesus. virgin mary i dont know who is this? u people have said god is everywhere, he will be in piller as well as grass-straw. 'hitler was beaten by joint strength' u have agreed, this is what i am also telling everything in mans hand. shivaji, guru fought against mughal and tired and died but mughals ruling was cont.. what is the time of ripe. ravana ruled well srilanka and also he was a lord siva devottee!! only he misbehaved with sita, this is wrong of course. if this the reason why rama came as avatar purusa, is it justice? in this case how many rape has been being taking place all over the world for which god should be always here as avatar purusa. ok my friends thank you.
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by ashish singh on Sep 27, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
Dear Manikchem You should read Ramayana first then ask these type of questions, You know the time when Ramayana was written? before 14lakh years (Now you will say in Zurasic period, how they knew the presense of Ramsetu,according to NASA the age of Ramsetu is same as written in Ramayana, how they knew some place in sea where every thing pulls towards sea (read Sunderkand in Ramayana)and also about Bermuda Triangle, What you think about Brahmastra and other Vaans hit by Ram and others is this similer to misiles or not, what you think about Vimans of Ravan and Kuber is this similer to todays Aeroplanes. About God, Ram, Mohammad Sahab, Gurunanak, Buddha, I want to say you every body having a power with himself that is God, Ram....etc. If you are sure with your inner power god will save you.
Please read ramayana once, this is my request to you.
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by prashant sharma on Sep 27, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
how can u know? u dont have the brains for it. by the way your english needs serious working on dude. Lord Ram ate fruits from Shabri, a tribal. He made best friends with A boatman of low caste. He did these things as he wanted to show that the lord des not believe in evil like caste system. All these stories about shambukha killed by Lord RAM are ENTIRELY FALSE. There is NOT A SINGLE REFERENCE in valmiki Ramayan. This is just demonic propaganda. Then the Lord gave this world ideals of being a devoted son, who went to forest. he killed the evil DEMONS like Ravana and kumbhkarna and SAVED THE WORLD FROM THEIR ATRCITIES. Then he showed the world the power of MERCY, by returning LANKA to VIBHSHANA. The lord could have kept Lanka, but he said, I DONOT BELIEVE IN TAKING OVER OTHE KINGDOMS AND MAKING THEM SLAVES. This is a principle which India still follows. The crux of the matter is that beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder! If you look at A STONE with faith yOU will see GOD. IFYOU LOOK AT EVEN LORD RAM WITH THE HATE FED TO YOU SINCE YOUR CHILDHOOD,YOU WILL SEE THE SAME HATRED THAT YOU FEEL.
