first they took these arts away from common public man and started saying as its for a particular sect of society. now they are trying to make it like american democracy taking it to people.
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by Vasantgopal on Sep 25, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
Dear SS and 'simple' Carnatic music has nothing to do with caste, it may not be popular music but is the base for light and other kinds of music. Even folk music is commonly based on Nattai, kurinji ragams. IN Thanjavur district everyone from Police officer to farm worker has solid knowledge of carnatic music. Other e.g. are barbers who are excellent nadaswaram vidwans. In Kerala, even mapla muslims who claim arabic ancestory have excellent appreciation of carnatic. You may be aware of these facts, I am just reminding you. Only problem Dravidian atheists have is that 99% of carnatic music is devotional!
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by simple on Sep 12, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
I know what u mean; I'm not a Brahmin. But I do believe that its all indiviual interest. And these individual interests will definitely flow down the generations with the blood. Btw, Who is preventing u from learing the music and also pass it on to the Kids? But dont get carried away by what the so-called Dravidian leaders say?
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by ss on Sep 14, 2007 09:05 AM Permalink
I am not a brahmin and not a follower of dravidian leaders.
all i said is as you mentioned people should be free to follow what ever they want. the arts is always by simple people and they nurture it. but when people started making money they make it more complicated and take it far from common man.
please look if ordinary artist from villages can eneter music academy or so many academies.
music is for people to listen but is it possible for any musiican to give it to publis you need real support only then a company can sponsor. putting inn simple words take cricket its not easy who ever plays can become a ciricketere too much money is there and game is no more too much money in music industry and no music
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by on Sep 13, 2007 07:49 PM Permalink
The history of how performing arts came into existance is simple that everyone wanted ways to enjoy viz. Dance, music, drama etc to rejoice. It depended on their liking and sensibility for a particular form of performing arts. Since music karnatic/hindustani is classical and required certain chaste approach, it couldnt attract masses to it but was limited to certain sections of society, as per the then rulers' liking. We read in history that during certain rulers' time, there was development in Art and music and some tried to destabilise etc. So it doesnt seem like some section tried to restrict it but more or less it is liking. Its a fact that most of us prefers cinema/TVshow to a music concert, as later required some sensibility that might be genetic!!!
RE:first they took the art away from public?
by Kabeer on Sep 12, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
Needs a little diging into history. When Devdasis nurturing these arts, the society looked down upon them and these arts. Then it became necessary to preserve these art forms of Music and Dance. That's when, women of the upper strata of the then society took an adventurous step by lending a helping hand to Devdasis against huge uproar by the then conservative society. One may check the story of Rukminidevi Arundale. It was a risky step in those days- if you succeed, you can give an aura of respect to that art but if you fail you yourself risk degradation in the then conservative society. When I say society I dont mean only the upper strata but all sections of society. In those days all sections of society looked down upon devdasis. If truth needs to be found without bias or prejudice one may know the story of the great MS Subbulakshmi. Even a diamond needs polishing. But for his support the world could not have known as much as it did of this great musician. No one has taken away from anyone. Just lent their support when the society degraded them-so that one day we can have a Rahman among ourselves.
