It is disgusting to see so many messages posted here with utmost hatred for religion be it hindu or islam. Terrorist activities are not sole copy right of any particular religion. These poeple indulging in such extreme act are in a sense psychopaths. The are sick and need help. Jack the ripper never chose his victims from a specific sect, cast or religion. He loved killing so he did it. Yes many terrorist organisaions have their root in islamic countries. That does not necessarily mean that all muslims are terrorists. The same can be said hindus...all and sundry in this country is itching to brand narendra modi as a hindu extremist. The latest opinion poll shows that he is way ahead of congress in Gujarat. The fault doesnt lie in narendra modi. The fault lies in the way media whips up religious frenzy. However islam is a religion which thrives on extreme torture. For instance the meat they eat has to be from a slow killed animal. I wonder what is the logic behind it. You kill the animal so slow and u eat it too. Top it up you talk of peace. Every nukkad in mumbai used to have a bhai and that bhai used to be a muslim untill sena decided to crack the whip. 90% of underworld activists are muslims. It is pathetic to witness the adulation our Indian women shower on bollywood bhais..salman etc. Stop worshiping these creatures and they will fade away. We indians are very lean on them.
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by rani on Sep 10, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Suresh, see the truth for God's sake...
Terrorists are very very clear.. they do it for Allah- they are not misguided... They have a cause- they want ISlamic Caliphate on this world and they are working hard!
its sadly people like you who are misguided... Good people, with a good heart who refuse to believe what they have been showing us all along!
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by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 09:01 PM Permalink
Learn from hsitory or wait for your turn. Even if u learn, the chances for you to escape are grim.. So u better learn to perish. Good luck. All the so called hate monkers here to have many muslim friends. But they wont help us to change the attitude of their community. All they can do is as u comented, just say "bhai bhai".. Nothing more, nothing less.
May be time will change u.
I generally dont speak sensibly if I suspect a jihadi attitude. But in your words I see some sorrow seeking for a genuine solution.
Can u show a single musalman, who say, yes the problem is in our community. Instead they are more ready to point fingers at modi, RSS all of whom had responded to Jihadi-terror in jihadi-ways.
So for me a good musalman is good for nothing, he cant change his community, he can just talk. So if he so good, if I could help him out of a religous mad-killing, I may, But in now way I will help his community.
I have learned that I need to be pragmatic in my kindness and views. Individual and community differs, even in the times of riots and also in the times of peace.
I am sorry for being like a extrimist. I have no choice.
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by vasu_erfolg on Sep 10, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Hello Mindgod,
You are wrong when you say "So for me a good musalman is good for nothing, he cant change his community, he can just talk." Sorry - that is expecting too much out of our "good" musalmaan. No, you are mistaken - he won't even talk. He will silently bury his conscience and follow his mullah
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by mindgod on Sep 10, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
Vasu,
I know very well of what u say. But there is 1% who wants to be different not just in India but also in pak. Once I happened to talk to a paki punjabi, an ardent Musalman. After talking to him, I felt so hurt, that I forced to do this, spite of some very good people like him. So I never said anything to hurt him, he himself wanted a good friendship with all religions and did not believe all non-muslims deserve to get different treatment.
In case of a riot, if it is forced on us, we need to take of atleast such souls, if we know for sure.
The main reason a good Musalman is silent is the silencing attitude of ISLAM using terror. If u leave it, death is the penalty If u critisize it, then too death is the penalty ISLAM hunts a muslim first, if a muslim and non-muslims criticizes it.
In short, in practical case of violence, we should see individuals, death some innocent also die, i mean from all sides. Atleast it is a even death, unlike only non-muslims die.
In truth, I am somehow balancing my conscience, my kindness, my friendship and heart with pragmatism and reality. It is hard and hurts but as I said no choice.
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by latief on Sep 10, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
hi I m latief and i m muslim too as said no good muslim point out to say that there is a problem within them then i should request you to attent some friday speece in mosque then might you will uderstand what is preace to us
i m not blaming to you all guys for your attitude , i was want to make people understant that this what some people wnat from us to react voilent from boht side and the haterate should always followe us so this politition can make profit out of this wethere it is BJP or Congress
nobody is fighting the holy war it is far bigger game what we can understand it is all about money
and my dear borhter if have some time go through the following video release in USA from LPAD officer on his research and u ill be stunt what you will see
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by mindgod on Sep 11, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
In any analysis and observation an average hindu dont mind any religion, because for him everything is God or whatever.
But I see an attitude to takeover everything by force in Islam. I say this from my own experience.
For example, In my state in North part which is dominated by Muslims, a muslim should not sell his land to any non-muslim. But he always buy from non-muslim. Life of non-muslim is miserable in these areas even in this so called India. So after each generation non-muslims are more than willing to sell the land to someone(Muslim) who will buy it and relocate to a peaceful area. Thus Islam builds Islamic jihadi pockets using force and new social-rules other than Indian laws. This only Islam is doing and they do it everywhere, ending in UK and denmark too..
Again even the govt schools there are like Muslim-schools. They have friday holiday when rest all have sat/sun. They have only muslims as teachers. The fate of other hindooo teachers who unfortunately teach there, i will narrate in next post with example. Thus they make sure, they use their own rules, even in a democratic country.
So it natural for any average intelligent person to understand what will happen to our generations if Muslim-jihadists are not butchered by USA/israel.
See, these might out be an issue at all for u as a person. We have no UAE to do religious things which our fore-fathers used to do from aeons. You have created so many countries right??
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by mindgod on Sep 11, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Ok now I will narrate the situation my friends family have to go through in a muslim dominated dist of south-india, which is his ancestral place.
His sister got a govt job near her house as govt school teacher. She is send to 6th grade class. The very first day she understood that life wont be so simple for her.
As said before, though a govt school, it is just as an madrassa with govt funding. But as this girl is through PSC merit seat, legally they cant kick her.
Now within a week as 6th grade class teacher, she has to cry several times a day. You may wonder to know the reason. The 6th grade kids said so much that no 20 year old guy will speak off and threatened her.
They want her to get converted to Islam They want her to put a head-scarf They want her to remove her krishna-locket.
She suffered it for one week. But later on inquiry she learned that all hindooo teachers who came there left like this.
Now say Who made those 6th grade kids as those jihadis..?
Latheef, ur Mullaas, ur parents, ur mosques..?
That poor girl gave up her govt job for her life and family. Now they are planing to relocate that place and as usual only a muslim is ready to buy their home. Another victory of people like you latheef... One more infidel evicted.
Like this u muslims will hunt us until we are no more, so by supressing all my kindness and human traits, I say unless I am sure, I will in no way help a muslim and also I render my all help in destoying them. U gave me that right..
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by latief on Sep 10, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
and to dear all muslim brother respect to all other religion people and tribe and other nation Islamic Principle: Living Peacefully with All Nations and Peoples.
The verse mentioned below informs us that we were created and made into various nations and tribes so that we may get to know each other, and not so that we may despise and hate each other. Then we are reminded of the the fact that the best of us in God's eyes are those who are most righteous.
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things)." (Surah 49, Verse 13). This wonderful principle of Islam makes it clear that there is no single people, race, or nation that is better than others. God created us all equal. In God's eyes, the best of us are the most righteous and most kind.
God created mankind as different races and nations although He could have created us all with as one nation, with one language and one religion. However, as stated in the verse mentioned above, God created these different nations and tribes so that we get to know other each other, and not to hate each other because we are different. This tells us that we should celebrate our differences and not hate each other based on them. Islam also t
