Sensible muslims must think of conversion into faiths closer to their religion Sikhism,Cristianity etc.
SOME MUSLIMS WHO ARE PERSONALLY GOOD THINK ISLAM IS GOOD SINCE THEY ARE BIASED TO SEE ONLY THE GOOD. BUT THE TRUTH THAT ISLAM IS EVIL STANDS OUT CLEAR. READ THE FOLLOWING EXCERPT FROM AN EX-MUSLIM%u2019S CONFESSION:
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/260607_1.htm
THE HAGUE, 26/06/07 - The Prophet Mohammed was a frightful man, comparable to Osama bin Laden, says Labour (PvdA) council member Ehsan Jami. He is the founder a Committee of ex-Muslims.
Jami, 22, who arrived with his family from Iran in 1994, lost his Islamic faith after the 11 September terrorist attacks. He re-read the Koran then and concluded that the Prophet Mohammed was a "criminal." If Mohammed were living now, you could compare him to Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein, he told Trouw newspaper. "A frightful man, someone who speaks beautiful words but behind your back brings out a knife to stab you. It was a disillusionment to discover who Mohammed really is. My enormous reverence changed to deep contempt."
RE:Sensible muslims must think of conversion
by MBotha on Sep 11, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
ex-muslims can be counted on fingers, do I beleive them and their agenda or do i attempt to hear the 2 billion...
RE:Sensible muslims must think of conversion
by Hindustani on Sep 11, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
No just use human common sense.Wether it makes sense to kill all idol worshippers?
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by LION on Sep 11, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Hi Hindustani. Ofcourse Allah ordered in Quran to kill all idol worshippers but this order was given to Muhammad SAW and his companion when they were in a battle of war. The people with whom the war was going on were Idol Worshippers but the reason behind this war was not religion but because they had looted the properties of Muslims of that time and had killed their parents and relatives just because they had accepted Islam. In the same chapter Allah orders Muhammed SAW and his companions that "you shall fight against them but if they don't want to fight then you should not harm them and rather take them to a safe place and leave them."
Don't you know that according to Geeta in a batter of war of Pandav and Kaurav even Sri Krishna asked Arjun to not get emotional and rather stand still and kill the opponents even if he is his relative. Then does this mean that Sri Krishna had a terrorism mind? NO. This is a rule of war. you have to kill your opponents.
Allah says in Quran that "If anybody kills an innocent person then he will be punished as if he as killed the whole mankind and if anybody saves the life of innocent then he will get a reward as if he has saved the whole mankind."
Now You are talking about common sense. Use your common sense and think that Mughal Emperors have ruled India for more than 300 years and had they killed all idol worhshippers then only few years would have been enough for them to convert India to a 100% Muslim populated Country. Grow up
RE:Sensible muslims must think of conversion
by raj on Sep 12, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
Hey Lion. Do Muslim nations know what peace means? They blow up each other.Create problem if any non-muslim coutry exist next to them.(India and Isreal are fine example) All Arab and Non Arab muslim countries dont have democratic goverment. All ruled by one man or military using brutal force. No Human rights.Only one language you guys will understand . That is brutal force, violance and blood shed. I think America is the right answer to this problem. Mr.George Bush have the stomach to do it.
RE:Sensible muslims must think of conversion
by Hindustani on Sep 11, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
Exactly! This is what jihadi terrorist are not able to understand. They still think that this is medival ear and they are in Arab coutries.
As per moghul empre , it sustained becasue it collaborated with local Hidnu Kings and Aurangajeb tried with all his might to kill and convert all hindus but was not successful.
Marathas,Sikhs,Jats,Rajputs gave a tough fight and finally ended moghul sultanate.
These are terrorist and jihadis who need to grow up and our brothers like you who converted long back under the foreign muslim oppressors.
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by Hindustani on Sep 11, 2007 09:39 PM Permalink
Buddy .Clear up your concept.It is terrorist who call themselve Jihadis. This is appropriate to call them Jihadi terrrist. Whole world know this fact.
I am absulutely corrcet about Moguls. It was Marathas,Sikhs,Jats,Rajputs gave a tough fight and finally ended moghul sultanate. CHECK HISTORY.
As far more human religion is concerned.Take for example Sikhism. Which is has been epitome of best values of Hinduism and Islam.
RE:Sensible muslims must think of conversion
by LION on Sep 11, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
First of all don't call the those men who are killing innocent people as "Jihadis". You can call them Terrorist but not "Jihadis". You people don't even know the meaning of this word. Jihad means to "Fight against evil". So are these innocent people are EVIL that you are calling those who are killing innocent people as "Jihadis".
They may call themselves with anyname but we are sensible enough to name them properly.
The one who does JIHAD can't be terrorist at all. 1st category of Jihad is to fight against our own evil desires. Tell me: Will I become terrorist if I fight against my own evil desire.
And regarding Mughals sorry brother. Your knowledge is not upto the mark. You think that few Hindu Kings and others sustained Mughal Emperors. For your information, at that time Mughals were ruling from the center and only few small other religion kings were there. So do you think that so so small kings could have stopped the kingdom that was on full power on the whole country. No chance my brother.
If you want me to grow up and follow any other religion then I am ready. But tell me a religion more or equally pure and beautiful than ISLAM. No Chance. You don't know even a basics of Islam and you are just listening to what Media and Anti-Islamists says.
Common brother. I will try to clear your misconception about Islam because I really don't want you and other brothers like you to be in darkness in which Media is trying to keep you.
How do you explain total erasing of hindus, sikhs, buddhists from east and west pakistan in a matter of few decades, while they remained there for 1000s of years of indian history?
Fact is, Mughal empire did NOT have total control over India as we think today.
Economy was in the hands of the Hindus. Muslims elite were a tiny minority, and never had any base in vast areas of india.
HOWEVER THEY TRIED THEIR BEST SPECIALLY AFTER AURANGJEB. SIKH RELIGION WAS CREATED SPECIALLY TO SAVE GUARD DHARMA WHEN ISLAMISTS ONSLAUGHT ON INDIA WAS AT ITS PEAK.
