Some naive social thinkers feel that a stable pakistan is in the best interets of India. However it has been observed that as long as pakistans stands whether stable or unstable there is always a threat to India. The mere existance of pakistan is a moral boost to terrorists outfits wihin India which are getting arms and amunition from pakistan to play havoc here in India If India needs to win the war on terror then it can only be achieved by destroying pakistan. It would be very naive to argue that a democratic govt. in pakistan would eliminate the terrorist organization. That will never happen. Destroy pakistan once for ever and there won't be terror.There ia a saying in Hindi 'Na Rahega Baans...Na Bajegi Baansuri"
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by shehbaz nisar on Sep 10, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
what the hell u r talking u have forget that islam teaches a man to love if we point one finger to other religion the other four finger point at us did u understand
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by Glady Seth on Sep 10, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
what !!! that dose islam teach ?????? love ? peace ? harmony ? you must be joking.
shehbaz nisar, could it be that because muslims have four wives therefore four-four fingers point back at them?
Aadi Manav -- what you are saying Nehru had the opportunity to do. But in his infinite wisdom, (read, under the spell of wife of the last Viceroy of India, Edwina Mountbatten) didn't.
Here's a quote from "INDIAN SUMMER The Secret History of the End of an Empire" By Alex von Tunzelmann.
It was the culmination of a lifetime's struggle; and yet, as Nehru later confided to his sister, his mind had not been on the splendid words. A few hours before, he had received a telephone call from Lahore in what was about to become West Pakistan. It was his mother's hometown and a place where he had spent much of his childhood. Now it was being torn apart. Gangs of Muslims and Sikhs had clashed in the streets. The main gurdwara-the Sikh temple-was ablaze. One hundred thousand people were trapped inside the city walls without water or medical assistance. Violence was a much-predicted consequence of the handover, but preparations for dealing with it had been catastrophically inadequate. The only help available in Lahore was from two hundred Gurkhas, stationed nearby, under the command of an inexperienced British captain who was only twenty years old.
They had little chance of stopping the carnage. The horror of that night in Lahore set the tone for weeks of bloodshed and destruction. Perhaps the Hindu astrologers had been right when they had declared 14 August to be an inauspicious date. Or perhaps the viceroy's curious decision to rush independence through ten months ahead of the British government's schedule was to blame.
The world was redefined that night, but not in the way that most of those present thought. On either side of Old Europe, two new powers were rising to world superiority-and both took a close interest in the new dominions of India and Pakistan. In the East, Stalin's Russia was in the process of supporting Communist movements across Europe and Asia, bolstering the influence of Moscow and extending its borders. In the West, the president of the United States of America had announced the Truman Doctrine just five months before. He had stated his intent to promote democracy across the world and resist the tide of communism flowing forth from Russia. The Americans had become particularly concerned about its flow into India, and Russian agents were already suspected of funding Indian Communist parties in Bengal. That very night, Nehru's sister and close confidante, Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit, was in Moscow, preparing to present her credentials to Stalin as free India's first ambassador.
... as free India's first ambassador. Though its envoys were on good terms with Nehru, the U.S. government was alarmed by these developments and moved fast to create a new alliance with Pakistan. During the nineteenth century, Britain and Russia had played the "Great Game" for control of central Asia, centered in Afghanistan and the territory that would become West Pakistan. In 1947, the United States was gearing up to play a new Great Game against Russia, and the slow but significant rise of a fundamentalist Islamic movement would ensure that Afghanistan and Pakistan would remain at the center of international politics well into the next century.
As darkness fell on 15 August 1947, Delhi's Mughal Gardens glowed with thousands of tiny lights set among the jacaranda trees, and with hundreds of distinguished guests. Among the long avenues of gold mohur and flame-of-the-forest trees, princes chatted cordially to freedom fighters, and Hindu radicals to British soldiers. There was a sense of hope and magic, as two of the twentieth century's greatest men fulfilled their ultimate ambitions. Nehru became leader of a free India, and Mountbatten played the role of a king-with Edwina as his queen. Few of the guests watching this display would have suspected that the celebration was about to be blown apart.
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by abdul wahab on Sep 10, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
where does it say? it wasn't said in islam ..its an old saying in chinese....dont borrow things so easily like anu malik and bappi lahiri.
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by Vinay Gupta on Sep 10, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
What is the point in reporting everything abuse. You people canot even respect the others view point . Leave religion apart. I reproduce-I agree with u Aadi. Though it may sound communal but it is true that a Islamic nation can never live in peace with a secular society. Islam doesnot permit muslim to respect other religion. Islam belive in spreading it's religion and killing looting raping all is allowed. In early days it was not given a name but now it is called terrorism!
You are right that any govt be it democratic or other cannot make Pak a civilised society. They will always remain a danger to India
Mr, nisar, if Islam so good a religion then why is not spreading in same way as it spread when soward aws the law or other were not strong?
