The pro-US guys here are adopting wrong line of argument. Let us have a healthy discussion with a FREE, unbiased mind-niether pro-US NOR anti-US.
Most of the arguments have been resting on cases why we need to have good relations with a strategically important partner like the US. No questions there. We need good relations there. I am myself a resident of the US..
Similar are arguments why we should NOT support Iran. No questions there too.
But the objection is why WE would build/sever our relationship because SOMEONE ELSE ASKS US TO DO SO..That is the fundamental sovereignty question here.
For example: Let us say, you do not like your wife and CANNOT stand her..Even if that be the case, no one has the right to interfere and instruct you to divorce her.. That should be YOUR decision.
Similarly, whether India should have relations with Iran or India will/will not explode the Nuclear bomb is orthogonal to whether someone can instruct us to do so..In other words, sovereignty is independent of what we do with it.
RE:Wrong line of argument
by sudip on Sep 07, 2007 04:16 AM Permalink
Good Point but this Not Aligning with anyone doesn't serve anyone. That has fundamentally been a flaw in India's foreign policy. The simple fact is we need to increase our trade and create a pro-foreign investor environment. I don't think India is going to get anything from Iran and I don't care if its the US or anyone but I know that the US, UK, Germany, France, Japan, Australia etc are all aligned and even though they have differences between them (i.e. Iraq), India's choice is to align its foreign policy with this group rather than the Iranians, Cubans etc...
As for your analogy-if people see you are making a mistake by sticking/or not sticking with your wife then they should object/advise...only if they care before you end up on the front lawn with your pajamas...
RE:Wrong line of argument
by Chirag Majmundar on Sep 07, 2007 04:09 AM Permalink
I think Indian government should respond back to US senetors that the ties beteen Iran n India is age old, perhaps much before the ties with US. India is not supporting Iran in terms of arms and technology then America is helping Pakistan to foster the terrorism in South East asia. Seeing the political instability and fragile situation in internal parts of Pakistan, US should not support Pakistan at all. The same Economic Help to Pakistan from US is used in spreading terrorrism in India. But I am sure, India won't reply back. bloody old Indian leadership.
RE:RE:Wrong line of argument
by Jagan P James on Sep 07, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
Does India need to reply to any tom dick & harry, the senators are as good as our commies her, just for cheap publicity, and they have put the matter to rice, why india should be bothering abt these nonsence.. the same, why america is not responding to the commies what they are doing here. its better for there own govt to deal with such things..
RE:Wrong line of argument
by Onlooker on Sep 07, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
You have started good but then your analogy is not very good here. India-Iran is not an internal affair. US do not like to see what looks to be a win-win situation today to be turned into a lose-win situation for them tomorrow. They are taking every steps to safeguard their interests. Nuke in the hands of one mad fellow is a dangerous situation. You have to be a developed nation and a democratic nation to handle nukes. We are developing, so to some extent its ok for the US. But Iran is not so. Its basically a common sense. You dont want to support someone who support your enemy. Do you? Other than that, we need not compromise our sovereignity or our security. Those are legitimate concerns and we should clearly put it before the US.
RE:Wrong line of argument
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Onlooker, Us Government itself do understand the needs of Indo-Iran Pipeline. Though they expressconcern, they do not vehimently oppose it.
But I do not understand as to why we are becoming more loyal than the King himself.
RE:RE:Wrong line of argument
by knowme Iamhuman on Sep 07, 2007 05:08 AM Permalink
u r bit mean.. u dont like wife..why then u married her even and leaving her shudn't be ur decision..only...It shud be joint decision just to make a clarification of ur point ..nothng to do wd india us thing
RE:Wrong line of argument
by prasad p on Sep 07, 2007 04:03 AM Permalink
you are right in a way.But what if your neighbour feel that you will take away his wife..and his friend is close to you.Then obviously he will seek help from his friend to move you out..
