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India should severe all ties with Iran
by Minto on Sep 06, 2007 11:05 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

India should severe all ties with Iran for now as per US wish. US will soon oust the current leadership in Tehran and replace it with modern thinking secular leadership. India can resume the relationship once new leadership in Tehran takes over.

India has benefited immensely from close US ties. But that is nothing compared to what will follow.


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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by akshaya deshpande on Sep 07, 2007 12:03 AM   Permalink
Minto`s are the most realistic truthful vews based on facts.Iran is abusing Islam by actively supporting terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan etc. The only reason for their support is their incorrect understanding of Islam. Everyone now knows that any fundamentalist and Islamic fanatic-leadership country possessing nuclear weapons will give those to any other Islamic country in the world without a moment`s hesitation for mass-killing the Americans and Europeans,the Christians, the Hindus, the Buddhists. India must have nothing to do with Iran, a country led by an unbalanced President. WHY SHOULD INDIA BE SOFT TOWARDS AND SUPPORT ISLAM FOLLOWERS IN OTHER COUNTRIES? One can understand our love for and brotherhood with Muslims in our own country, who love India as their own motherland. The entire Islamic world knows that India has been supportive of other Muslim countries on various occasions substantially for pleasing Muslims in India.
That must stop immediately, beginning with Iran.India must go with the US and the West full steam in all fields,and derive benefits for a speedy development. They are most dependable because they have strong ethics and do not need to exploit countries like India for their development,and they can be trusted, unlike any othercountries including Russia, China, NAM countries etc.

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by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 12:19 AM   Permalink

That is no reason for us to desist ourselves from engaging Iran. By not in contact with Iran, do you think we will change them. From where do you think we will get Gas. From US? By sitting here and saying something is not done. We know much about as to what is being done in Saudi Arabia. Do we stop sending our people there? What Israel is doing is heinous crime. Everyone knows that. But we have more than a cordial relation with them. Are we not doing business with them? And what about the US? Are they DUDH KA DHULA? Then why not Iran? If we do not do any thing on the Pipes, we would be sacrificing benefiting our economy and benefits to our people.

And going with the US does not mean that going against any other country. And being friendly to any country would not prohibit us from coming closer to the US.


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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Minto on Sep 07, 2007 12:27 AM   Permalink
We will not need any gas from Iran as a result of 123 agreement will pave way to installation of many nuclear power plant that will supply all of india's energy need.

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 10:40 AM   Permalink
You can not run your car with the nuclear energy. Nor would you have your stove lighted with that. Do you think our industries' input is only electricity?

These comments do not have depth!!!



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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Jehan Mir on Sep 07, 2007 12:22 AM   Permalink
I think ,you should do what your Master says.

Cut your ties with Iran. Sooner the better.

There are plenty takers of Iranian Oil. What India doing for Iran ? Nothing.

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Buggs Bunney on Sep 07, 2007 12:42 AM   Permalink

does iran give free oil ?

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by Sree Jani on Sep 06, 2007 11:15 PM   Permalink
Minto
Diplomatic relations are not like choosing prostitutes....or may be it is. But India needs energy for sustained domestic growth. Iran is a far better choice for that than US. In that context, it is an issue of do we want oil and gas from Iran or nuclear know-how/tentative help from US. Obviously, Indian diplomats are betting on both, wisely. Because for India's policies, her self-interests are more important than the self-interests of a war mongering country.

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Minto on Sep 06, 2007 11:34 PM   Permalink
Iranian oil flow will stop for a brief period. It is doubtful that current government in Tehran will last another six months. India, in the mean time, can get all its oil from other sources like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Pehaps we can negotiate with USA and get oil from their strategic reserve. We are very good at negotiating deals as illustrated by 123.

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by luqman kondeth on Sep 07, 2007 12:33 AM   Permalink
ic...the US startegic oil reserve is for India??? Now, how intellgient are you?

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by sunny on Sep 07, 2007 12:59 AM   Permalink
why we need oil ?

Why can we use Water instead ? Don't you remember Rammer Pillia ...in Tamil Nadu coned KArunadhi .....

HEHEHE



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by Kurt on Sep 06, 2007 11:37 PM   Permalink
That is correct! We should look at this as a historic opportunity and take it. We stand to benifit with USA as a strategic Partner and the future looks bright with US by our side. Ignoring Iran is in our best interest.

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by SI on Sep 06, 2007 11:16 PM   Permalink
Just like how it ousted Saddam from Iraq and replaced with govt which is not even capable of securing thier own country??? Iraq one of the greatest exporter of Oil is now a begger country. you moron use some brains instead of giving hollow suggestions.

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by abhay das on Sep 06, 2007 11:14 PM   Permalink
Now we have to buy oil from US...

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by balu sanjay on Sep 06, 2007 11:32 PM   Permalink
yeah. we are getting the oil for free???. once if they stop selling oil to the enormously consuming coutries like india, the oil producing nations will drink it.

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 06, 2007 11:19 PM   Permalink
India will suffer very badly, in the long run, by going close to the US. Historically, being close to the US means to be a subject to their Whims and Fancies. Even the UK has not been able to release itself from their clutches.

It would be very far fetched to think that there would be a Leadership change in Tehran. Even if the HYPOTHESIS becomes a reality, the development (Pipelines) can not be dug out or the supply will not be stopped due to obvious economic reasons. And it is definitely required for India to be close to the US today, to be friendly to the Future Iran, which is another Hypothesis.

We must not heavily depend on those Hypothesis to direct our Policies.


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by Buggs Bunney on Sep 06, 2007 11:56 PM   Permalink


what have u got from iran except lip service ?

america & its allies are the largest investors, outsourcers, technology transfers & aid donors to the republic of india.

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by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 10:44 AM   Permalink
Ignorance is never a bliss!!!

Are we dependent on those things from America? The technology will come, inspite of US's liking, as it has been un till now. And will be coming in future. Whether it is 123 or 456.

And the 123 does not concern the Allies.



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by on Sep 06, 2007 11:43 PM   Permalink
Folks-lets be real here. We often make judgements about things using anything but common sense. Lets assume we get close to Iran and fulfill the dreams of our Communist parties. Lets think of what we will gain in that scenario= 0. We will perhaps get access to some oil which won't meet our long term needs. On the other hand, the entire trading block from the West will take a hard look at India. Sure we are a great and developing nation but we CANNOT and WILL NOT succeed if we alineate the major global economic powers. Also, since when can we trust the Iranians? That country is full of double standards and a training ground for terrorists/fundamentalists who HATE India just as much as they hate Israel and US. So what you are suggesting is to get close with a country that is run by an authoritarian psycho President rather than the US?

If you are right about the US then you should join the Communists. Look what wonders they have done in Bengal.

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  RE:India should severe all ties with Iran
by Lalatendu Deo on Sep 07, 2007 12:05 AM   Permalink
ON, Are our economic success because of the US or in spite of the US? No country has gained much, historically, from the US. We have something to show, by being independent from the clutches of US. The French and the Germans never toe the line in most of the cases.

Can you please tell me, which are the countries that have excelled by toeing the lines of the US? They will slowly and surely get you fully dependent on them for any thing and every thing.

By saying so, I am not saying that we should not go with the Deal. But I hope that there are a good scope of improvement there. You must have got an idea as to what I wish to say from some of my postings here in Rediff, as I do have of yours and of some others. If you recall, we had a discusson on the matter some time back, on the matter.



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