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Muslims Think
by baba on Sep 04, 2007 04:26 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Think why are Muslims hated.
This is how you repay gratitude after allowing you to stay in India after partition.
Can Pakistan have a Hindu President. How many Hindus are left in Pak - if not killed/tortured/converted.
Ungrateful people - is what Hindus think abt you. No to Vande Mataram - not mingling with the main stream , always complaining.
Be a true muslim like Abdul Kalam and A.R.Rehman - Hindus will love you - do not fall into the trap of secularwadi politician.


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by madakari on Sep 04, 2007 04:42 PM   Permalink
Excellent message for the people who still think that they belongs to Pak by staying and enjoying every right in mothor India.
Oh god pl give a look at these Ill thinking people!!!!

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by kapil on Sep 04, 2007 04:31 PM   Permalink
i second you...

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by on Sep 04, 2007 05:03 PM   Permalink
Why do I have prove my Indianess, I am an Indian as any other, irrespective of religion or creed. Why do these so called patriots, given a small chance accuse of non-indianess, what right does anyone to point a finger at me, generalizations is the bane of India. Why to we have to keep accusing....

As for vande matatam, I do not have much idea except that it conflicts with basic muslim beleif of a monothesim...

If on ther hand, why not we include monothesim in national anthem.. and include there is no god but Allah....will it be acceptable? Where will all this lead too?

Live and let live. Crime and criminals are not be tolerated. Lets clean our civic act and not give a chance for antisocial elements.

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by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:13 PM   Permalink
Dear on.........instead of telling there is no god but Allah, why can't we say just "there is no god" as there is no conclusive proof for the existence of god? This will put an end to all fights in the name of religions and gods.

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by on Sep 04, 2007 05:20 PM   Permalink
JGN, it will not. Atheism is a hollow concept - the innate nature of man, the fitrah of mankind is such that he is created. HE DIDNT EVOLVE. We may differ on many things aspects of worship etc..but no religion except for very few men say no god exists...



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by on Sep 04, 2007 05:24 PM   Permalink
The conclusive evidence of Creator is his creation. If you see a toyota car, u know the manufacturer, you will not say it is evolved from bicycle, similarly observe the creation,you will find the creator....

Then why all these killings in name of creator. The creator gave free will to man and created good and evil...

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by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:50 PM   Permalink
Astronomers estimate that the earth, like other solar planets, was formed over four billion years ago by the agglomeration of particles of matter in space. Later when the temperature and atmospheric conditions of the earth were suitable, life originated on it as a result of chemical activity. Molecules of livable organic matter were formed from methane, ammonia and water of the primitive atmosphere of the earth under the influence of solar and volcanic energies. (Simulating the conditions of the primitive atmosphere of the earth, the Nobel Laureate Dr. Har Gobind Khorana and Dr. Cyril Ponnamperuma had successfully produced molecules in their laboratories). These molecules in due course developed the property of replicating and producing energy through slow oxidation called respiration. It is this type of energy produced by respiring organic matter that we call life. Livable matter becomes a living body when it respires and produces vital energy (life).

The molecules of organic matter formed on the primitive earth produced unicellular organisms in due course, which as a result of millions of years of evolution gave rise to the present flora and fauna.

Harlow Shapply, the famous astrophysicist, says here can be millions of planets in space where life is possible. Some of these planets there may organisms much more intelligent and much more evolved than man.


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by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:42 PM   Permalink
by on......pl read the book The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks, available freely on www.gutenberg.org and understand for yourself.

No power can create a fully grown up individual out of dust (or thin air). Life on earth originated from unicellular organisms.

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by JGN on Sep 04, 2007 05:46 PM   Permalink
The Buddhists do not believe in any creator nor in souls or life after birth. The teachings of Buddha are rational and nearer to scientific truth.

Btw, even after 1400 years, those who fought along side The Prophet still lies buried. They have not received any of those rewards promised in The Koran! How long do they have to wait? Now, don't tell me that The Prophet has said, I am only a warner, be prepared, etc as I have also read The Koran.

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by anzar shennatt on Sep 04, 2007 05:13 PM   Permalink
pakistan is a muslim nationwhile india is a secular nation.Muslims has every right like any other belonging to anyother religion(hindu,christian etc).First change ur belief that india is a hindu nation and other religion people live on ur mercy.
Who said muslims r fully secure in india .look at wat happened after 89
1.babri masjid demolished .People behind it left free
some became ministers
Riots followed in mumbai and other parts
Bombblast in bombay as retaliation(no newtons third law as it is muslims)
2.Muslims killed in gujarat after godhra train issue
Forensics proved that fire started inside the train. The theory of people throwing inflammable liquid from outside ruled out.

Modi appllied newton's third law to justify rioters!!.

Sreekrishna commission report still in cold storage .No action against gujarat riot criminals
IF some people do crime in the name of religion then religion is not to blame.
IF some people do crime and escape in the name of religion then also religion(hinduism) is not to blame .
I am a secular person and have lot of friends in other religions.I dont enquire abt other's religion .


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by Malaya on Sep 04, 2007 05:20 PM   Permalink
Hindus are not secure in secular india
1. Godhra massacre
2. Kashmiri Pandits killed and forced to live
as refugee in thwir own country
3. millions of balgladeshi lived in india and create problem for hindus

4. Mumabi bomblasts
5. Hyederabd bomblasts
....

so pls make india a hindu country


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by neelu jain on Sep 04, 2007 05:36 PM   Permalink
6. Mau riots..
7. Killing in Saharanpur..
8. Bangalore attack..
9. Plane Hijack..
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by kalyan ram on Sep 04, 2007 04:40 PM   Permalink
whatever the minority hindus left in pakistan continue to suffer......pakistani muslim youths carry away young hindu girls and force them to marry them.....thats why hindus in pakistan are fast becoming extinct.....can that happen to muslims in india?....they have to thank allah to be born in india....

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by Vijay Kumar Nanjappa on Sep 04, 2007 04:32 PM   Permalink
Very true..

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by Zabardast on Sep 04, 2007 04:51 PM   Permalink
Yes u r right . We all feel sorry for muslims.Their religion has been hijacked by rational clerics and terrorists.

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by cupid on Sep 04, 2007 04:59 PM   Permalink
rational clerics????

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