Anything coming from the West (birthday cake, hand shake, ribbon cutting etc.) considered secular but anything coming from Indian culture (Bharat mata, namaste, surya namskar etc) are considered as communal. This is just slavery and disrespect to our traditions.
A person can change any faith or religion but can not change his/her culture, traditions, customs and ancestors.
RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 12:08 AM Permalink
Sunil,
Look like you sleep with your eyes OPEN.
What Culture and Tradition are you talking about.
I came to India last year...Look at our tradition and culture in today's youth...I was ashamed...Look at the dress or the lack of it in these girls today...In my days there were one or two girls wearing jeans in college...Now they are wearing shorts...
And How can you say that a person cannot change his Culture, traditions...
I also see old parents come to the US. The Mother gets rid of her saari/kurta and starts wearing pants...
Look at our films...they more pathetic than western films...Check out the ITEM/MASALA songs...Do you still believe that culture/traditions are not Changing...
Some changes are for Good (Eradication of Cast system, Sati)...some are bad...(Our dress code, family structures, Values etc)
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 12:26 AM Permalink
Mr Imran, stop being an orthodox goat and start accepting things. A women clad in a saree can represent Indian culture as much as a women dancing in an Item song. Culture is not a scripted manual of dos and donts, it is merely a perspective. 90%b of Indians struggle abroad just because they come here with a rudimentary mindset. They are not flexible enough to adapt to the foreign culture. Open your mind, start learning about other cultures to appreciate them and please let go of this 60s Indian mindset.
RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 12:39 AM Permalink
I strongly oppose ur narrow minded views abt girls. u have no right to ask a girl wot to wear. its better to wear a skirt than to wear a burqa and stay in oblivion forever. the burqa is the biggest symbol of women suppresion in islam. get rid of it and liberate muslim women
RE:RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:05 AM Permalink
I am not proposing that woman wear the BURKHA. Our friend Sunil suggested that Culture and Traditions do not change...I think that is a FALSE statement.
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 12:32 AM Permalink
Sunil, our culture no doubt is our pride and identity but even more than that it is an excuse to hide our fears. It is an excuse to curb our freedom. Traditions/culture or customs are the teachings that you get from your ancestors and pass on to your next gens. There is nothing right or wrong here, it's just a perspective. To expect everyone to have a perspective as good or as bad as yours is not correct. just my $.02
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
This is wot ur problem is, whn we try to accomodate u n compromise u guys try to sit on our head n thn u blame us whn we retaliate and u start playin the minority card.
RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
What do you mean by accomodate ? Is that a favor you are doing ? We live in India because it is our country...Not because of someone ACCOMODATION.
And stop this minority card BS. If our culture was so superior than other cultures, then why are we still a "DEVELOPING" nation for the last 60 years ?
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
its bcoz of u that we are still a developing nation. shutdown all madrassas and throw away all commies
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
listen am nt gettin into an argument with u nemore on this issues. i ll see u in another forumm on this subject as n when it comes. bye
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 01:31 AM Permalink
the yoyo never stops. Good going guys instead of blaming each other try eating your own rotten dog food first. I don't know how to define culture and I don't know what cultures you follow but I certainly know that settling scores by blaming each other for everything wrong isn't a part of my culture.
The disturbing fact is that Gandhi was as corrupt as Ghazni then and BJP is as corrupt as Congress or commies now and our so called narrow mindedness doesn't even let us vote these people out of power.
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
Cong record card:
1. Divide the nation on religion line
2. Bringing emergency
3. Bringing corruption in public sector
4. License raj
5. Bofors deal
6. Supplying arms to NE militant and LTTE
7. Killing innocent sikhs in 1984
8. Bringing Dynastic rule indirectly and slave mentality in the nation. Rahul Gandhi, Mr,Sindhia, Mr.Pilot, Mr.Prasad, it endless, the yound generation in cong from east to west, north to south symoblises the dynastic culture. thats their future.
9. Preindependence they supported the rich lanlorad, post independence they run the country for ppl like bajaj
10. Why is that Sindhiya, Pilot, Rajendra prasha whoever opposes Sonia dies within shot span in accident ? or some invisible hands r behind these murders.
11. Killer of Netaji Bose
12. Gandhiji wanted congres to do social works only, Neheru made it his family business.
13. Why Indira dumps her husband just after taking the gandhi surname?
RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:23 AM Permalink
Same OLD Tradition...Blame others for your/our problems... Here is a list
1. Gazni
2. Mugals
3. British
4. Gandhi
5. Nehru Family/Dynasty
6. LEFT
7. Pakistan
8. China
9. Manmohan
10. RSS?VHP/Bajarang Dal...
11. Modi etc...
We sure got this TRADITION of blaming other for our problems from our ancestors...Nothing new about this...
RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:07 AM Permalink
corruption, deceit, bribery and FRAUD is nt culture. these are called crimes. woz wrng wi u. if u don feel great abt our culture thn u can get da hell outta here.
RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
But did we not see our ancestors do them and we do not hesitate to follow them ?
RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:18 AM Permalink
I am...that is precisly the reason why I do not follow culture/tradition blindly...I do not want to pass on bad things to my children..just because i am doing it and because my ancestors were doing it..
RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
We need to follow what is appropriate...That may OR may not be our culture/Tradition. Our ansestors were NOT perfect. They may have had made mistakes. Today we see them as crime, in their time, it was the CULTURE (Again Caste system for a Brahmin in the 1900s was the CULTURE, the TRADITION...)
We need to follow GOOD traditions and reject the ones that are inappropiate.
