I love and agree to both of you.It is the quality of Hindu dharma only that it gives regard to others way of worship and tolerates other%u2019s view-piont and allows an open debate for every issue. Similar is not the case of others. 1. There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country, which provides Haj subsidy. 2. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India? 3. Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister. 4. Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority. 5. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a %u2018fatwa%u2019 against terrorists. 6. Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have in the past elected Muslim as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim %u2013 majority J&K? 7. Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah? 8. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi? 9. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like? 10. When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens? 11. In what way, J&K
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by Die Hard on Oct 26, 2007 04:51 AM Permalink
1) There are 12 Hindutva organisations in Sangh Parivar. Show one Hindu Organization where a dalit (ofcourse a hindu) is a leader
2) There are 28 states and 7 Union Territories. Tell me one state or an UT where the dalits can enter into all of the hindu temples.
3). There are thousands of upper caste families in the country. Show is me one uppercast hindu family which is ready to have a dalit girl/boy as a their son/daughter in law.
Others too ask question. First we should bring our house in to order before crying foul about others.
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by Milind on Oct 26, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Die hard,
You are indirectly supporting what Pranav Motiwala is saying. He is talking about the priviledges enjoyed by minority Muslims in India. And you are saying that caste system is not allowing some Hindus basic priviledges. What you dont realise is that you are indirectly saying Minority Muslims are getting more priviledges in India than some Hindus!
Isnt it time that everyone should get the same priviledges ? Be it education, jobs, civil law. How can we have seperate laws based on religion in a democracy ?
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by Bon Jovi on Oct 26, 2007 05:22 AM Permalink
then y hindus are in those countries? like dubia saudia jordon syria indonesia? just for some bucks!hipocrisy at its peak! Milind what Pranav is saying is total hate 2wards muslims!tell me when 2000 lost their lives not a single till today is apprehended and logic is 'those 55 were burnt' forensic reports told what? tehlka is telling what? both cant be wrong just to support modi!if u say it was retaliation then those who killed 55 must have retailited for babri! and 2000 were muslims did they get any justice?an y it was so targetted that in a street muslims were killed and hindus were left untouched?y muslims homes were marked way b4 godhara? Indians work in middle east!same jobs that everyone does!they r even executives and even doormen!juss like in india! if u have knowledge ull get jobs!if thats the case then y r hindus in those countries? they arent there for nuffin they are there coz they get bucks and then come in here and poison people oo this is rong here and in the morning praise their shiekh employer! If after mumbia blasts u got all that were involved for 260 people dead y mute for 2000 people? jus becoz they were muslims?did those 2000 killed those 55? y 2000 sikhs lost their lives in 1984?did they kill indira? now ull say retaliation? for one ull kill 2000?and wheres the justice for those sikh families forget abt muslims as they have to prove their allegiance to india!and dont call it congress or bjp its hindu vs muslim! and u knwo it!its all programmed!
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by Pranav Motiwala on Oct 26, 2007 04:37 AM Permalink
In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh, to have article 370? 12. Why Gandhiji supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got? 13. Why Ghandiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses? 14. If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states? 15. Do you admit that Hindus have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves the problem? 16. Why post-Godhra is blown out proportion, when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir? 17. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%. Today it is about 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights? 18. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today; whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists? 19. Do you consider that
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by Pranav Motiwala on Oct 26, 2007 04:37 AM Permalink
19. Do you consider that %u2013 Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Iman is Secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr. Praveen Bhai Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, Vande Matharam is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is communal and Jihadism is secular, and at last, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular? 20. When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan? 21. Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai Can a Hindu %u2013 say Mulayam or Laloo %u2013 ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa? 22. Dr. Praveenbhai Togadia has been arrested many time on flimsy grounds, has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been arrested for claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating further partition of Bharat? 23. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed? 24. Afzal Guru,attacker on Parliament,isnot being put to hanging inspite of repeated otders of supreme court?Could he be spared in any muslim or christian country for the same crime? No terrorist has yet been hanged.
