it is not possible for pakistan and bangladesh to stay as separate countries. the muslims over there are all converted hindus by force or for greed, a bitter truth they can neither deny nor confess. our govt with the assistance of nationalist parties should make elaborate arrangement to reconvert them to hinduism. in fact the arab islamic invasion came upto sindh in 850 A.D., killed dahir, the last hindu king of sindh, and did not proceed further for fear of the rajputs. ghori of ghajani was defeated by prithwiraj chauhan of delhi-ajmer in the first battle of tarrain in 1191 A.D.(he could have been easily killed by prithwiraj, but the latter let him go out of sheer magnanimity) but killed prithwiraj in the second battle of tarrain in 1992 A.D. using completely immoral warfare tactics. in fact islam conquered persia also using extremely dirty wargame. these things do not surprise us since islam is based on unethical immoral practices only. benazir bhutto's great granfather was an orthodox hindu, does she remember that ? why not pakistanis and bangladeshis embrace any religion born in the indian subcontinent so that the undivided india becomes a powerful economy ?
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by Shahryar Pax on Oct 20, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
A Hindu is free from enmity, well-disposed towards all creatures, merciful, wholly exempt from pride and selfishness, the same in pain and pleasure, patient of wrongs, contented, constantly devout, self-governed, firm in resolves, and whose mind and heart are fixed on God alone. He also is of whom mankind is not afraid and who has no fear of man; who is free from joy, from dispondency and the dread of harm.
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by Anand Jishu on Oct 20, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
sir, hinduism is a way of how to evolve the human mind and intellect so that you see the almighty in everything. there is no force that you must go to the mosque or you must pray looking at kaba stone five times a day. hinduism is a philosophy which says since you are born out of god you are the god himself(non-duality)and it also says you can worship god as your master and you are the bhakta. we are too small beings to define god to say there is only one god. no matter how you worship him,in whatever form, as "nirakar" like the water of an ocean or in a form you like (like water freezing into ice which has a definite shape but it is still water only) you are at liberty to do that. hinduism does not tie you up with anything by scaring you of fire or hell. it does not say you have to worship the kaba stone looking westerly at kaba only. you can worship god from any dimension. hinduism is not a moral charter of dos and donts, it is philisophy asking you to get your existence mingle with that of "bhamha", the supreme level of human intellect.
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by Shajit Ali on Oct 20, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Sir Anand Jishu, I am sorry, i am trying to tell something. but if it hurts your feelings please bear with me. because i am intentionally not to hurt you. if you say man is a god then why do we have jails? Sir Vedhas say God is Unique. no images to Him. God created man and makes some rules and regulations for his (man's) life. man can not deside his own life or death. God only desides it. so how can a man become god.
Kaba is selected because it is center of the land in earth. people in India turn to west and people in America turn east to face Kaaba to Pray Allah The Almighty
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by Anand Jishu on Oct 20, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
please remember what swami vivekananda told. every man is potentially great. sri aurobindo told thru meditation man can attain supramental consciousness, i.e. divinity. hinduism says, as sri sankaryacharya said "ekamadwitiyam", no differentiation between man and god, the almighty. till the electrons were found out, did we know that they exist. did we know radioactivity unless madam curie discovered it. did we know penicillins till sir alexander flemming isolated them and this one discovery changed man's longevity from twenty years to seventy years. it is sheer arrogance and audacity to say somthing is not possible till some one finds it out or some one gets the realization like sant kabir.
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by Anand Jishu on Oct 20, 2007 12:32 PM Permalink
sir, hiduism does not have a cut and dry definition. It is a structured or creative evolution of mind with respect to the unicerse.
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by Anand Jishu on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
sir, hiduism does not have a cut and dry definition. It is a structured or creative evolution of mind with respect to the universe
The essence of Sanatana Dharma is contained within the Gayatri mantra: 'We meditate on the glory of that Being who has produced this universe; may He enlighten our minds.'
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by Sanjay Guevera on Oct 20, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
Hindusim is not something to which one can give one p[lain defination. What this religion is a religion full of diversity. Thoese who belive is caste system are also hindu and those who don't believe in it are also hindus.Those who believe in idol worship are also hindus and those who are opposed to it are also hindus.Those who belive in Karam Kand r also hindu and those who r opposed 2 it r also hindus. Beliefing in one God or in 36 crore muliple god will have no effect.Beliving in Vedas or not makes no effect. Astik means those who belief in the authority of vedas and Nastik means those who do not belif in the authority of vedas.(not athesit it means aniesharwad in hindu Philosophy).Tolrance,divercification and universal Brotherhood is the essanvce of Hinduism.Having said so pl. do note that not all beleif like that .Diffrent people have diffrently interpted hinduism diffrently .JAKO RAHI BHAWNA JAISI ,TEEN DEKHI PRABHU MURAT TESI and this is true about all religions.
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by Shajit Ali on Oct 20, 2007 06:02 PM Permalink
Then you dont believe VEDHAS, UPANISHADS, Geeta, Ramayana? none of them support your idea.
how can you say who believe idol worship also Hindu, and who oppose idol worship also hindu. quite controvercy.
then what is happening in India.
Go into Vedhas, read them fully. find out what Vedhas say about God, know what vedhas tell how to live. your statement is not at all supported by Vedhas.
