Your repeated questioning about image worship in hinduism. The hindu worships through the idle not to the idle. Idles are meant for concentration and love, which is directed inward when it is developed enough. In hinduism the only God is the Self. It may be difficult for a monotheist to understand that, without the Self there is no manifestation, So in hinduism the Self is the creator not some external being sitting somewhere. Consciousness is God in hinduism, every worship is only a means towards that consciousness. Monotheism is for idiots, pantheism is intellectual. But if a monotheist sees pantheist without understanding the philosophy he sees idol worship. That is your problem.
RE:Ismail Sayyed
by stav on Oct 16, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
In hinduism everything is consciousness, this is a very high truth. The hindu philosophy states, matter is manifest as shakti (energy), energy is manifest from thought, though is manifest from consciousness. So it is not a lie to say that an image is not God, God is everything in hinduism, because its a manifestation of consciousness.
RE:Ismail Sayyed
by stav on Oct 16, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
No hindu has equated God to snakes or monkeys, that is your understanding. In hinduism the Self is the God and the universe its manifestation. Worship of the inner self is the only worship.
RE:RE:Ismail Sayyed
by stav on Oct 16, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Consciousness has no image, it is beyond manifestation. But you are bound manifestation. If you can quet your breath and heart in a instant and go into ecstatic communion with your Allah, then you can claim you requirement for basic tools. When a hindu sees his idol the first thing he feels is love, that love is what is important, he directs that love inward. When he has developed that love which captures all his senses and makes him intensely in love with his God, he may not require that idol anymore. So answer me this question, do you love your God to these levels, if not dont be under the impression that you have attained everything.
RE:RE:Ismail Sayyed
by stav on Oct 16, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
No muslims have not reached higher consciousness, this is what you are thinking and your mad mullah Zakir Naik's argument. Muslims are unable to have devotion, this is very clear, a devotional heart is not violent. There is a lot to higher consciousnees more than praying to an invisible God in the west direction. Higher consciousness is means to go inward, it requires a silent mind. Islam gives no method to silence the mind. It gives no method to go inward. What a pathetic state you are in , its like a first standard boy who thinks he has got a PhD because he wears a phD's graduation gown. That itself limits him going to the second standard.
RE:Ismail Sayyed
by stav on Oct 16, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
You are telling me as if to say , you know what is God !! If you say God is the creator, I will say without you there is no creation for you. So you are the creator. There is no observable without the observer.
