Gladiator, can you tell me who was the first Muslim? I quote from The Koran:
Abraham/Jacob???? 2:132 The same did Abraham enjoin upon his sons, and also Jacob, (saying): O my sons! Lo! Allah hath chosen for you the (true) religion; therefore die not save as men who have surrendered (unto Him).
Moses????? 7:143 And when Moses came to Our appointed tryst and his Lord had spoken unto him, he said: My Lord! Show me (Thy Self), that I may gaze upon Thee. He said: Thou wilt not see Me, but gaze upon the mountain! If it stand still in its place, then thou wilt see Me. And when his Lord revealed (His) glory to the mountain He sent it crashing down. And Moses fell down senseless. And when he woke he said: Glory unto Thee! I turn unto Thee repentant, and I am the first of (true) believers.
Muhammad??? 39:12 And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him).
So Allah himself seems to be a confused fellow! The how can he save millions of his followers?
RE:@Gladiator
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
Ismail Sayyed, now there are better methods of disposing bodies which do not create any pollution. Modern crematoriums use electricity and even natural gas for burning the bodies. Burying dead bodies contaminate the ground and ground water!
I have only quoted from your holy book. If you feel that what is written in your holy book is hatred, I cannot help it!
RE:@Gladiator
by Gladiator on Oct 16, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
QUESTION: WHO IS THE FIRST MUSLIM ??? ABRAHAM ? MOSES ? OR MOHAMMED ?
ANSWER: To make you understand very simply, who is the First Citizen of India ??? If you ask me before 10 Years then the Answer is JAIL SINGH.. If you ask me before 1 year I will say APJ Abdul Kalaam.. If you ask me Now I will say it is PRATHIBA PATEL... The Question is the same, but the answers change based on the Time Frame....
Dear JGN, your Question is a very common Mis-conception.. The Quotes that you are shown in the Koran refer to the Time Frame, many of you Mis-Interpret that Mohammed (PBUH) is the First Muslim ?? The Answer is ADAM is the First Muslim, when People go astray from Monotheism of One God, Messengers are sent to Re-Vitalize Monotheism... Each of the Prophet... has revitalized stating the Same Message for Different Groups of People in Different Time Frame.
RE:@Gladiator
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
Dear Gladiator, I am not irritated and don't say that Hinduism is a better religion. All religins are hoaxes. The religions and gods were created by the priestly class to earn their livlihood by exploiting the illiterate masses.
Moses was a mentally deranged murderer from Egypt, hiding in the hills of Sinai. The Prophet (Mohammed) was a metnally deranged epleptic and had frequent halucinations. Both used the same technique (revealation thru Angel Gabriel) to befool the gullible believers. A major potion of The Koran is plagrised version of Old Testament (Torah).
We have the examples of Sri Sri Ravi Shanker, Mata Amritanandamayi, Sai Baba of Puttaparthy, Benny Hinn, the late Osho Rajnesh,etc having lakhs of followers in front of us. Do you call them prophets or saints? These people are just making fool of the believers. If such characters are able to take people living in 21st century, we can only imagine how Moses or Mohammed was able to befool their followers at that time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:@Gladiator
by Gladiator on Oct 16, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
HELLO JGN... DONT GET IRRITATED .... LET US DEBATE ... HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT MOHAMMED IS NOT A PROPHET ... HELLO .... HATERS LIKE YOU, LATER BECOME THE BEST MUSLIMS IN THE PLANET... 1) HAZRAT UMAR, BEFORE CONVERSION TO ISLAM WAS THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF ISLAM... AFTER HIS CONVERSION HE BECOME THE KEY PERSON IN ISLAM...
ALLAH WILL GIVE YOU BRAIN TO KNOW THE TRUTH////ABUSING WILL NOT YIELD ANY RESULTS... IF YOU WANT TO CONVERT A MUSLIM, YOU CANNOT DO IT BY ABUSING,,, YOU HAVE TO PROVE HOW HINDUISM IS BETTER.... ABUSING WILL LEAD TOWARDS HATRED AND WILL NOT GIVE FRIUTS...
