QUESTION: WHO IS THE FIRST MUSLIM ??? ABRAHAM ? MOSES ? OR MOHAMMED ?
ANSWER: To make you understand very simply, who is the First Citizen of India ??? If you ask me before 10 Years then the Answer is JAIL SINGH.. If you ask me before 1 year I will say APJ Abdul Kalaam.. If you ask me Now I will say it is PRATHIBA PATEL... The Question is the same, but the answers change based on the Time Frame....
Dear JGN, your Question is a very common Mis-conception.. The Quotes that you are shown in the Koran refer to the Time Frame, many of you Mis-Interpret that Mohammed (PBUH) is the First Muslim ?? The Answer is ADAM is the First Muslim, when People go astray from Monotheism of One God, Messengers are sent to Re-Vitalize Monotheism... Each of the Prophet... has revitalized stating the Same Message for Different Groups of People in Different Time Frame.
Dear JGN, your Question is a very common Mis-conception.. The Quotes that you are shown in the Koran refer to the Time Frame, many of you Mis-Interpret that Mohammed (PBUH) is the First Muslim ?? The Answer is ADAM is the First Muslim, when People go astray from Monotheism of One God, Messengers are sent to Re-Vitalize Monotheism... Each of the Prophet... has revitalized stating the Same Message for Different Groups of People in Different Time Frame. Hope you Understand Now ??
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Dear Gladiator, there is no question of mis-conception. The Prophet (Mohammed) is the founder of Islam religion. Before The Prophet, there was no religion called Islam.
The so-called revealation from the Allah was the handiwork of The Prophet (Mohammed) to hoodwink and/or motivate his followers (with all those rewards in heaven or cruel punishments in hell, etc).
The Prophet (Mohammed) changed the verses from time to time to suit the peculiar circumstances. Any amount of jugglery with words cannot convince rationalits like me!
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
Dear Gladiator, this another Surah from The Koran:
2:222 They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.
The Allah (or is it Mohammed) equates menstruation to an illness where as it is a normal biological process and a pre-condition for reproduction. Is this what you call devine revealation??????????????????
RE:RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Gladiator on Oct 16, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Yes what is the Definition of ILLNESS ? Dictionary.com says ILLNESS means 1. unhealthy condition; poor health; indisposition; sickness. Go and ask your Wife, Sister or Mother on How they feel when they are in Menses.... They wont be ready to come for a Picnic, which means they are not Feeling Well and Hence they are Sick...
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Arjun Periyar on Oct 16, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
You have studied the Koran better than our friends Ismail / Gladiator / Contractor. These guys are simply reading for past many years but have not understood anything! The main problem is these people are using their own brain given by the God. Indirectly this is another insult to the God!!
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Gladiator on Oct 16, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
HELLO MY DEAR... ADAM, ABRAHAM, ISSAC, MOSES, JESUS & MOHAMMED (PEACE UPON ALL) ARE THE BEARERS OF THE TRUTH SENT TO RE-VITALIZE MONOTHEISM, WHICH IS ISLAM... YOU ARE IGNORANT THAT THERE WAS NO ISLAM BEFORE MOHAMMED /// I CANNOT HELP YOUR IGNORANCE//// CHECK THE OLD TESTAMENT.... WHICH FOLLOWS "THE PATH OF SHALOM" SHALOM IS ISLAM IN HEBREW.... CHECK "ALLALUYA" OF CHRISTIANITY, THEY REFER TO ALLAH ONLY... I WILL GO ONE STEP AHEAD.. ALL THE HIGH LEVEL HINDU SAINTS, WORSHIP THE PARAMATHAMA, WHO IS PURE AND FORMLESS... ALL THE GREAT HINDUS UNDERSTAND THE GREATNESS OF ISLAM.... THATS WHY SHIRDI SAI BABA SAYS "SABKA MAALIK EK" WHICH IS THE SAME AS "LA-ILLAHA ILLALAAH" ....ONLY IGNORANT HINDUS WORHIP ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP.
RE:RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Imran on Oct 16, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
Dear JGN great to know u have read the quran properly . Majority of muslims will not have as much knowledge as u have they read quran without understanding. Great work keep it up even if one fanatic gets convinced by our writing it will be a greta service to humanity.
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by JGN on Oct 16, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
Hi Imran, so far as I can see, the main problem with dogmatic muslims is their lack of understanding of The Koran. If they read the same in a language they fully understand, they will also understand the fact that there is nothing in the so-called holy book, except the handiwork of Mohammed to hoodwink his followers!
Any way we have to try out best to make the so-called warriors of Allah (or the corresponding denomination of other Gods), the futility of the so-called holy books, which have outlived their utility.
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Imran on Oct 16, 2007 05:16 PM Permalink
U r right JGN and I admire u bcoz of the effort u have taken to find the truth, indeed it%u2019s the hallmark of a great personality.I didn%u2019t put much effort only used my brains a bit to realize that all religions are big hoaxes. I hope we keep up our effort to educate the mislead people abt the falsity of such beliefs.
RE:ATTENTION JGN
by Arjun Periyar on Oct 16, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
1. Who is the first muslim woman? Was she earned in a war booty against infidels? 2. Who was the first infidel whom Adam defeated? 3. Did Adam grabbed the wealth, women & children in the wars against so called infidels? 4. Whi created the infidels on this beautiful earth? God or somebody else? 5. Why God gave Supari to your profet to kill the people who don't believe in him? 6. God is supreme power, then why he needs help from you guys to cleanse this world from infidels? 7. God understands everything as he is the supreme power. Then why you need to please him?