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NO DEAL.... NO SLAVARY ... HELP INDIA
by Pramod V on Oct 16, 2007 02:30 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Just understand one thing... WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD US PAY REDIFF to post this article if the deal was good for INDIA.

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by Milind on Oct 16, 2007 02:35 AM   Permalink
The writer is former Chief of Institue of defence studies & Analysis, a person any Indian govt. consults from time to time on defence matters !!!
And you accuse him of being a paid agent??

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by Pramod V on Oct 16, 2007 03:14 AM   Permalink
I dont know who this writer is but here is the fact. ....

There is a fundamental difference between Homi Bhabha's policy of growing science and the policy of importing science. The process of growing science does not involve a jump from the base level to the most advanced aspects without undertaking the intermediate trial and error methods. Cutting edge technology is not given by any state that acquires it for the obvious reason that in the present day, the technology edge sets nations apart. The technology that would be handed over, therefore, will be second- or third-rate.


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by albert fernandes on Oct 16, 2007 03:32 AM   Permalink
1. Homi Bhabha, Self-reliance, Khadi, Small scale Industries etc, are no longer sufficient to help a rapidly growing India. Bhabhas work has taken us far and he is among my heroes but we need to take the second big jump now.
2. We cannot afford to go with trial and error and try to reinvent the wheel. Even with the LCA we took help for the airframe from russia and germany, composites from USA, kaveri engine testing from russia, engine redesign from pratt and whitney usa, avionics from israel and france. Now prototypes are using GE 404 engines.
3. Anyone or atleast most countries will give you cutting edge technology as long as you are willing to pay the price. If we are poor we can never pay the right price. Tata and Mittal have bought companies with latest technology by paying the price. Even bomb, rocket and missile technology is easily crossing borders.
4. It is all about deals, we should be able to deal with Americans, Russians or even Chinese in a business like manner and not doubt our own strength.

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by A Sriv on Oct 16, 2007 02:42 AM   Permalink
When we have anti-indians and communists like you, we don't need enemies... It is sad to see such a great deal going.

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by Sandipan chakraborty on Oct 16, 2007 02:45 AM   Permalink
am i a commi..hahaha...don't try 2 act smart slave..i am not..but i have very out of the box thinking..which some of u guyz will never understand or not willing to understand..


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by A Sriv on Oct 16, 2007 03:04 AM   Permalink
Who is a slave...stop issue all these irrelevant statements, what is slavery got to do with this. We are power hungry and this would have given us that. We need to provide electricity to 1.2 billion people. This technology makes it easier and convenient and cleaner. 70% of France's energy comes from nuclear power. But your thought process has to do with politics.. anti america stance. Therefore you don't have the vision...sorry keep living in your false pride.

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by angshuman dutta on Oct 16, 2007 02:54 AM   Permalink
please come back inside the box. out of box thinking is for commies my pal. all of my life I had to endure it so dont give those excuse. these commies are hypocrite, will tell all the lies in the world to grab power then they will kill butcher do anything to stay there until they blown out of their chairs. so please think what is good for INDIA and not out of the box.

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by albert fernandes on Oct 16, 2007 02:39 AM   Permalink
Would it not be wonderful to be slaves of the chinese? No Deal is terrific. Pakistanis would make very nice masters too. Let us all rise in chorus - Jai China! Jai Pakistan.

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by Pramod V on Oct 16, 2007 03:15 AM   Permalink
r u saying its better to be a slave to US than china and pakis?

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by albert fernandes on Oct 16, 2007 03:18 AM   Permalink
My apologies again, its not about slavery but about deal making and achieving our goals.

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by Sandipan chakraborty on Oct 16, 2007 02:42 AM   Permalink
why do u bring in China and Pak..when u wnat to be a US slave..serious slave attitude..so if i speak against US i am china pak slave is it?..either ur a birdbrain or slavish or Evil minded..nothing else.

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by albert fernandes on Oct 16, 2007 03:15 AM   Permalink
My apologies if I offended anyone by doubting their patriotism. Being against the US does NOT mean supporting China or Pak, so I am sorry. But getting to the point. India should realize that it is strong enough to ally with the US, and derive economic and strategic benefits while maintaining an independent foreign policy. We may have to kiss up to the US and keep them in good humor for a couple of years. Once we become strong like China, we can do what the hell we please.
We have to realize that we are only on the threshold of economic development and are not fully developed. We have to take every bit of opportunity to reach our goal.
India will need to learn to strike many more deals like this maybe even with China to reach the top. In summary, the Nuclear DEAL does NOT mean we are slaves to the US.

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