RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Okay im back. so my understanding of christianity is that Jesus died for my sins. If i realize that i will get a place in heaven. if i dont i will not. So why does this basic concept bother you? there is 2 sides to the coin. you believe or you dont. if you believe then you will be in my understanding of heaven in the afterlife if not then hopefully you will be in whatever you believe in.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
HAHA HA.. I KNOW ALL THAT.. FIRST THING .. WE BEING HINDU RESPECT CHRIST AS A SAINT.. OFCOURSE NOT AS GOD.. WHO DIED FOR THE HUMANITY AND NOT FOR CHRISTIANITY. SECOND, THE GREAT LORD/GOD/ALLAH IS NOT A RELIGIONS PROPERTY. FORTHE LORD, ALL ARE ALIKE, LET IT BE HINDU/MUSLIM/CHRISTIAN. IT DEPENDS WHAT DO YOU DO IN YOUR LIFE. BEING CHRISTIAN DOES NOT GIVE YOU A RESERVED SEAT IN HEAVEN. NOBODY EVEN THE CHRIST CAN NOT BREAK THE RULES OF THIS UNIVERSE CREATED BY THE LORD. WE BELIEVE ALL RELIGIONS ARE FOR GUIDING THE HUMANITY TOWARDS SPIRITUAL. JUST BY BEING SO AND SO DOES NOT ENSURE YOUR SEAT IN THE HEAVEN. THAT IS WHERE IS THE BASIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AND HINDUISM.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
BECAUSE CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT ONLY THEIR PATH IS CORRECT. ALL OTHER PATH ARE WRONG.. THEY TRY TO CONVERT PEOPLE. AND HENCE IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE WORLD. MUSLIMS ARE DOING THAT WITH A GUN AND CHRISTIANS ARE DOING THAT WITH THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS NOW.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
ONE MORE MISCONCEPTION: CHRIST DIED FOR YOU AND SO WHATEVER YOU DO.. YOU WILL BE IN HEAVEN, IF YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST.. WAKE UP MAN.. ALL YOUR THEORIES ARE WRONG..THIS WORLD IS BASED ON ACTION/REACTION. IF YOU WILL DO BAD, BAD WILL COME TO YOU. IF YOU WILL DO GOOD, IT WILL COMETO YOU. ACCORDING TO CHRISTIANITY , IT IS ALL THE MISTAKEOF ADAM WHO ATE THE WRONG FRUIT ETC.. COME ON. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FORTUNE. DON'T BLAME YOUR FOREFATHERS AND POOR CHAP ADAM FOR YOUR MISTAKES. YOU DO NO BELIEVE IN INCARNATION. THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU AJAY AND INDIAN, EVEN THOUGH YOU WANTED TO BE IN USA AND HAVE SO MUCH ATTRACTION TO THE WHITE SKIN.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
GOD IS PARTIAL FOR YOU AJAY.. HE DID NOT MADE YOU WHITE LIKE YOUR OTHER CHRISTIAN BROTHERS. WHY?? DON'T BLAME YOUR FOREFATHERS.. IT IS YOUR FAITH. WHY COULD NOT YOU BECOME GEORGE BUSH JR.? WHY ARE YOU IN POOR ECONOMIC CONDITION COMPARE TO BUSH..SO PARTIAL GOD , HUH?? ANY ANSWER?
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Firstly in my reply i mentioned my belief,but you keep stressing on the words "our hinduism". dont try to use a sympathy card on the other readers, speak for yourself. by being born a christian i am not ensured a place in heaven, for a place i have to believe that Christ died for me. This is what i believe, I do not expect you to believe it. But, may i ask why you are trying to impose that my belief is WRONG?
Secondly, do not try to tie Christianity and Islam together, they are not the same.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
WHAT WE BELIEVE IS WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. SYMPATHY WITH WHOM?? CHRISTIANITY AND MUSLIM ARE SAME ON ONE THING.. BOTH WANTS TO SPREAD THEIR RELIGION LIKE COMMUNIST. IF YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST. WE RESPECT YOU. BUT CHRISTIANS DO NOT STOP THERE. THEY WANT OTHER TO FOLLOW THE SAME. THAT IS WHY DOING MASS CONVERSION BY GIVING MONEY. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THAT WHO BELIEVES IN CHRIST WILL ONLY GO TO HEAVEN. IF REQUIRED I CAN SURELY GIVE YOU REFERENCES FROM BIBLE.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
IT IS TOO LATE FOR ME NOW.. SO IF YOU ARE A HARDLINER, WE CAN SURELY DEBATE TOMORROW. IF NOT, I AM SORRY. I HAVE NO INTENTION TO HURT YOUR FAITH. I BELIEVE FAITH IS IMPORTANT. WE ALL ARE THE CREATION OF THE SAME GOD AND HAVE EQUAL POWERS. ALL ARE EQUAL IN THE WORLD OF GOD. IT IS WE, HUMAN BEINGS CREATED DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
HAVE NO INTEREST OR NO INTENTION TO HURT ANYBODY'S FAITH. WHAT YOU SAID IS WHAT WE BELIEVE. LIVE AND LET LIVE. BUT NOT ALL ARE LIKE YOU. IN FACT YOUR ARE PROBABLY THE FIRST CHRISTIAN I HAVE SEEN SO FAR, SAYING THAT. I HAVE BEEN IN CHRISTIAN SCHOOL. I MET MANY PEOPLE, BUT NOT A SINGLE PERSON SAID WHAT YOU SAID. THIS DISCUSSION NOT FOR YOU.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
No its all good. Religious discussions generally never reach an end. Forced conversion is Wrong and people who practice it are not worth it. We will surely catch up some time on these discussion forums, if we agree on things we will smile if not we will wear out our keyboards ;-)
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
ALL THE CONFUSION ON YOUR SIDE SIR.. I HAVE BIBLE HERE WITH ME.. DON'T WORRY . AND HAD LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH EVANGELICS HERE.
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
HA HA HA. YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A HARDLINER NOW..IF YOUWANT TO HELP ANYBODY IN THE WORLD, PLEASE HELP WITHOUT LOKING AT HIS RELIGION, CASTE, NATIONALITY. BUT NO. CHURCHES ARE GIVING MONEY TO POORS AND FORCING THEM FOR CONVERSION. ALSO, IN MY AREA I HAVE SEEN THE FORCED CONVERSIONS WHERE POOR PEOPLE ARE TOLD THAT YOU WILL GET HEAVEN ONLY IF YOU TURNTOBE CHRISTIANS. THEPEOPLE WHO DO NOT MEET BOTH END THINK , A BETTER IDEA, ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE MONEY AND OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE HEAVEN.IS THAT THE REALITY?? IS IT NOT THE CHEATING IN THE NAME OF GOD? WHY DO YOU WANT TO LIE? WHY DO YOU WANT TO SPREAD LIKE COMMUNIST? SAME THING WHEN MUSLIMS DO, YOU WOULD CALL THEM TERRORIST.. IF THEY ARE VILLAIN LIKE TERORIST, YOU ARE TYPICAL LALA (IN HINDI MOVIE) KIND OF PEOPLE WHO GIVE MONEY AND TAKE MUCH MORE FROM THEM. SELLING THE RELIGION ON THE NAME OF GOD
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Playful on Oct 08, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
IF THERE IS NO COFUSION, WHY THE HELL YOU NEED TO SPEAD CHRISTIANITY INSTEAD OF HUMANITY?
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
References. well you just quoted what i said and then added mass conversion. I feel you are a confused person who is looking for a fight based on some secondhand information that you are trying to cling on too.
RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
I am not an evangelist, I am just a simple dreamer who wishes to achieve the small desires that I have. I am a true Christian and as I said I believe what I believe and I respect you for your religious beliefs, just don%u2019t criticise my faith.
RE:RE:WHERE R U MR AJAY??
by Ajay Mathew on Oct 08, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Ok looks like you are only pushing for a verbal conflict. Fine. You said conversion. There are 2 types, ie conversion by faith and forced conversion. Forced conversion is absolutely wrong. Conversion by faith is absolutely right since it is a persons own decision. You mentioned conversion my money. 2 sides again, the person who is paying money and the person who is taking money, can you tell me in your opinion why both these people are doing what they do and what do they benefit.
