RE:Can anyone....?
by The Confused Orient on Oct 04, 2007 08:22 PM Permalink
Only one, every one else in the fray have proven thier incompetence. Let BJP come to power once and let us see their performance.
You have not clarified one thing though, Congress has ruled Mother India for 5 decades, but still has not uplifted the masses. How many more decades do they need?
RE:Can anyone....?
by GSB on Oct 04, 2007 08:24 PM Permalink
OK Confused, Iam typing a very good reply for you as you have asked. I appreciate you for the fact you are not abusive but interested in a debate... just wait Iam typing..
RE:RE:Can anyone....?
by GSB on Oct 04, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
BJP believes in classes because of RSS and RSS will never give up control over BJP. So the real difference is if BJP had ruled india for 50 years instead of Congress is that in case of BJP the country would have progressed as much if not better and only certain class of people would have become really realy rich and knowledgeable and the rest of the society ( read 75% ) would have gone to dogs. With Congress the country is not as much as it could have been but every one can participate. WHY DO YOU THINK CONGRESS IS STILL WINNING?
Most people do appreciate BJP ( Even I do though I keep fighting on this fourm ) but because of BJP's hardline hindutva ( class war more than hindutva ) almost everyone is scared of voting BJP , dont consider this opinion as mine... Instead go talk to the downtrodden section of the society their answers will stun you.
Just check the whole of tamil nadu is converting to christianity and in Kerla the Church already controls the governament , Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh will follow suite.......
Know why I support Congress? ( Iam a Hindu and there are many hindus like me who support congress )
RE:Can anyone....?
by The Confused Orient on Oct 05, 2007 06:27 AM Permalink
Well I would only say, its Mayavati, Mulayam, and Congress and co who are more known to woo poeple based on caste.
May be you stay in some International space station (pun intended, no offense meant), we live here, I have seen what goes on in Mandya, the tug of war or rather bad blood b/w DK Shi and HDK, Deve Gowda sons Vs other Congress thugs, its a bad bloody tussle. These poeple unforunately never pick up pages of morality from great stalwarts like Sardar PAtel, Lal Bahadur Shastri etc.
Moraji Desai and Chandra Shekar were good to some extent but they were mis-fits in petty politics.
Only with my closed ears and eyes I can accept what has happened to date.
Well I agree, the ideal National party which I thought was Jan Sangh, but it died with the loss of core principles.
PS: One note, as a kid, I went to RSS for 5-6 years to play games 1 hour each day, what we were taught was ONY indian culture, no-fuss games, in the RSS Head quarters of Bangalore I NEVER EVER saw even a single political pawn. It happens to some extent in Delhi but I do not know the in-house details there. If you follow the life of Hedgewar am sure you will certainly appreciate his message atleast. Infact lot of RSS PRacharaks accuse and abuse some stalarts of BJP for playing petty politics. It is because of some stray thugs here and there who spoil the complete image, after all as CHO Ramaswamy says [he is no supporter either] its a fashion to abuse RSS and BJP, because today, AntiBJP/RSS
Hope this goes well ith you GSB, its not about my view Vs yours. If our kids atleast have to enjoy good governance, WE should initiate the necassary changes like ...
1) NO post-poll moves 2) FROZEN Manifesto (Commitments) 3) Non governamental evaluation i.e. scorecard gainst promises made/kept etc 4) Absolutely NO criminal record. 5) NO to Nepotism
RE:RE:RE:Can anyone....?
by neil oneil on Oct 04, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
bl00dy dog who told u the whole of tamilnadu is converting to christianity,and hello where is the congress winning u a55hole
RE:RE:Can anyone....?
by GSB on Oct 04, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Dear Confused here is my reply
When India got independence it was really in a sad state just to put a administration in place and to form the indian union was a tough ask just google for post independence struggles you will know. Then there were three wars with pakistan and one with china which was really tough on India but through a seris of attempts Congress has solved this Ieve listed it below.
1. Number of 5 year plans. 2. Setting up of IIT's / IIM's. 3. Funding Scientific research. 4. Giving equal representation for all classes of society ( BJP will never do this ). 5. Setting up of PSU's. 6. Thrust on Industries. 7. Establishing the basic health care system. 8. And the Economic Reforms by Manmohan Singh which eventually took India forward.
Dude you can argue about point 4 but think about it BJP is controlled by RSS.
Iam not telling you that what ever congress has done is highly refined, there are lot of flaws but systemic flaws can be found even in developed countries.
By sheer luck the Internet became widespread when BJP came to power around 1997 that is because of this IT and BPO got a tremendous boost for which BJP claims the credit, but it is really because of American Universities / Millitary which funded the invention of internet.
I do agree that there are Intellectuals in BJP with high qualification for example Murali Manohar Joshi ( Phd in Spectroscopy ) but what is the use they are all focusing on the wrong issues and the BJP's infighting. ...Continued
RE:Can anyone....?
by The Confused Orient on Oct 05, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Great thinkers and world movers like Sardar patel, Shastri, Rajaji were also around then, but ever since Indira came [she made some good moves], but she institutanalised corruption that hurt India in many ways. When Congress(I) was formed, the way politics was run changed dramatically and no to forget what VP singh did, doing something for the minorities and the backward communities is not all about reservation alone. I agree reservation, is required, but it should be applied smartly.
When a slum dweller is highly unlikely even to go to school [we have atleast 300million such people] reservation in IIT's, IIMs etc does not mean to them, let alone that, any form of reservation, free medication does not help.
We as citizens should moot some changes. I wonder how you claim these credits for congress, any way I leave at that, at least am convinced they do not deserve to come to power, for they have had enough oppurtunities.
RE:Can anyone....?
by purna on Oct 04, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Congress should be dissolved first. That is what Gandhi wanted. They have lived long enough on the punya gained by the freedom fighters. Now they have to suffer for the sins committed in the past six decades.
RE:Can anyone....?
by The Confused Orient on Oct 04, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
In case you are interviewing 3 candidates.
1 has been selected many times before, has worked for 45plus years without being productive.
Other had also been selected before, has done more harm than good.
Now we are left with the last, untested candidate. Logically I feel it is not about our allegiance to any party, but we are left with no choice but to give BJP a chance and see.
RE:Can anyone....?
by imran patel on Oct 04, 2007 08:34 PM Permalink
If that is the way a maojority of the Indians feel and make decisions...we are in for a disaster...
RE:Can anyone....?
by Abhishek Banerjee on Oct 04, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
better than giving osama a chance, which is what people in your community are doing.
RE:Can anyone....?
by Murali on Oct 04, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
BJP especially Yediyurappa not fit to lead the state and they should never come to power. Either Kumarswamy or congress(S.M Krishna) should be next CM.
RE:Can anyone....?
by Sanjeev Sharma on Oct 04, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
continued survival of congress is bad for security of India. thanks to infiltration support policy and sickularism policy, living space available for indian citizens is reducing. Pakistan and Bangladesh are gone case. Kashmir is gone case. Assam is getting there. Much of the north-east is sitting on a poweder keg thanks to infiltration. In Kerala, hindus are soon going to become minority. That will ensure that they are forced to flee just like Kashmir.
