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No - its time to SHUT OUT ?
by pervinder_s@yahoo.com on Nov 07, 2007 04:22 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Can Mr Peri explain who massacred those in the Godhra Train ?
Who is responsible for the thousands of Killings of Innocent Hindus in Kashmir ? Who is responsible for thousands of Kashmniri Hindus living as refugees in a Hindu Majority Country ?

Gujarat riots happened after the Train was burned and not before ? WHY ? The sting should have covered this part first of all ? I mean could it be that MODI burned the Train so that he could utilise it to remain the CM ? Could be ?

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 04:41 PM   Permalink
Mr Pervinder u have a selective memory. Have you forgotten that the Babri masjid was demolished by hindus?? And the police were standing there and were smiling at those hooligans. And definitely studies have shown that the Godhra train incident was all made up. And after that Gujrat massacre where thousands of muslims were killed, the victims still haven't got justice!!!!!! what do u say about this?????

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by Perv Sharma on Nov 07, 2007 04:44 PM   Permalink
Babri Masjid was never Demolished - a boundary wall of the Masjid which was kilometeres away was broken ?

Now which studies of yours show that Godhra TRain incident was all made up ? And by the way why is URT Big Muslim Mouth shut on Kashmir ? Is it because only Hindus have been killed ?

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 04:50 PM   Permalink
which wall are you talking about. if u had shut your eyes while the masjid was being demolished then plz see videos of that shameful act and then comment. and even if a wall is demolished, according to your claims, then why should that happen when everyone knew how tense that such was.

about hindus being killed in kashmir..... do u know how many muslims are being killed there by the military people??? and u won't find the answers in our so-called 'secular' media about this. and for your kind information i would like to tell you that people who live there have narrated all this.

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by Perv Sharma on Nov 07, 2007 04:56 PM   Permalink
Unfortunately someone narrated U but I lived there ?

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 05:03 PM   Permalink
so u say this story is totally wrong?

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by adfasd asdasd on Nov 07, 2007 04:23 PM   Permalink
Until we moderates (who are hindus and muslims only at home) voice your concerns and raise our voices to such a decibel that all the voices of communalists, secularists and terrorists is drowned it....your and mine children cannot hope to live in peace. The lives of our children may end up violently as the victims of Godhra or Gujarat.

What the writer wants to rightly point out is that we have all become divided by us and them and not just only because of the secularists but more so because of the communalists as well...

Even when we hear heart wrenching tales of horror and even see live proof of it on live TV we think that its only the muslims or the hindus who are being burned and murdered even if they are innocents...

Isnt it a shame that Godhra is a part of Gujarat but we still have 2 separate meanings for Godhra and Gujarat.

These politicians and stripped us naked of our morality.

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by S S on Nov 07, 2007 04:30 PM   Permalink
Pervinder dont justify a massacre where thousands were killed just because something else was happening in other part of the nation. Kashmir was peaceful and things were good der till pakistan step in, It became a war zone. If that region of the country always was at a critical position. Just because people of pakistan and those you were killed belong to the same religion,does that justify the act in your eyes. Those people were your fellow countrymen, they had as much right to be in gujrat as you do n I do. Try seeing things beyond religon ,caste n race. Just for a sec.

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by Perv Sharma on Nov 07, 2007 04:41 PM   Permalink
Can U give us a example wherein in a Muslim Majority Country - the minorities are allowed to follow a law of their own religion. Can U give an example wherein in Country the minority Religion is given the same status as that of the Majority - Can U name any neighbouring Country of India ?

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 04:45 PM   Permalink
my friend India is NOT a democratic country. First you need to understand what democracy is.

and by the way there are thousands of non-muslims in countries where there is Islamic law and yet they (non-muslims) are living peacefully and are also getting complete justice. what more can someone ask for???

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 05:02 PM   Permalink
even in saudi arabia hindus can follow their religion and even have idols in their houses. dude if am arguing on this point it is only because u need to understand that our judicial system is totally biased and corrupt. am not saying my muslim brothers are saints, but why should there be injustice. the gujrat victims still haven't got justice whereas most of the culprits who planted bombs in mumbai have been sentenced. y this inequality.

dude we are educated people we need to question the judicial system and not increase hatred amongst us.

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 04:51 PM   Permalink
corrction -- India is a democratic country and not a country run by Hindu laws.

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by Perv Sharma on Nov 07, 2007 04:54 PM   Permalink
Name the country stating which allows the minorities to follow their own law ?

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by adfasd asdasd on Nov 07, 2007 04:44 PM   Permalink
none....

But we have such a law and by the the personal law is not only for muslims its for hindus as well...

forgot the joint hindu family IT gains???

But i dont want to argue..i want to say that i am proud to live in a country that even in this time is secular and just.

I think you are ashamed of it...if so then think why???

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by Imran Shaikh on Nov 07, 2007 04:42 PM   Permalink
it's just because of this sick mindset that we have such a terrible situation :(

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