We all know that M&M cannot fix their religion on their own.. The only way to expose these old time book reading uneducated Mullas and their followers is exposing their thinking in open forums.. The critisism has to be on the thinking in relation to the mordern times.. Islamic religion is TOO MUCH INTERFERRING IN DAY TO DAY LIFE of a moderate Muslim. It has complete control like an opium over an average M&M.. The question has be discussed as to have this grip can be loosened.. The dilaog here on this forum is one of the good start..
RE:I think Moderate Mulims need help from Hindus..
by Solid Man on Nov 04, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
All those trying to blame the muslims and Islam I have a simple question. How do you plan to convert 28% population of the world to another religion. By abuse? :-) If you have some better ideology to offer then go to those people and explain them your ideology. How are you going to make any difference by posting hate here ? In the time I needed to write this post 100 new muslims were born...how do you plan to convert people ? Islam has never seen mass conversions as hinduism. When people are leaving your religion in thousands how can you be worried about some other religion? Is like when your own house is on fire you are worried about the fire in the neighbours house. By 2020 Islam would be the most followed religion in the world. Every third person would be a muslim. Your children will be in touch with the muslims more than ever before...So to protect your ideology you have to work in your ranks. The more you get involved in hate mongering the more you leave your own house unprotected.... Those people who left hinduism to convert to Buddhism in front of national TV were not forced by any muslim to convert. These might just be the initial waves out of hinduism the biggest waves of conversion out of hinduism might be round the corner because the educated hindus are busy abusing muslims and people from their community are leaving hinduism from the backdoor to merge with buddhism.
RE:I think Moderate Mulims need help from Hindus..
by GN on Nov 04, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
Let us not interfere with other religion. Everybody have the right to follow and do things what they believe is the right.
As far as i know, Hinduism never promoted conversion. Hinduism is not a religion its life style.
Hinduism been there in India Existing long before Maurya Empire %u2022 321%u2013184 BCE , Middle Kingdoms 230 BCE%u20131279 CE , Gupta Empire %u2022280%u2013550 , Islamic Sultanates 1206%u20131596 Mughal Empire 1526%u20131707 , Maratha Empire 1674-1818 , Sikh Confederacy 1716-1849 British India 1858%u20131947 and the modern till 2007.
The requirement of the time is to take necessary precautionary measurement to protect the great values. Educate our new generation the great knowledge left by our ancestors.
RE:I think Moderate Mulims need help from Hindus..
by QandA on Nov 04, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
I think you got me totally wrong.. There is no question of Conversion nor hatred. Islam has very wierd and very very old though process which is not applicable in 21'st century... The geniuness of whoever wrote Islam is that he took care that nobody can challenge it.. That's the part where constructive criticism has to happen. There are MAY M&M who also want to constructively criticize Islam.. There is no question about imposition of any religion on Islamic people.. But some most of the aspect of Islamic control over an average M&M can be fixed by creating an atmosphere so that a new religion in future can be evolved which could be mordern a Islam... But that can happen only by Non-Muslims in current times...
RE:I think Moderate Mulims need help from Hindus..
by GN on Nov 04, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
Non Muslims should not abuse Islam. and non hindus should not abuse Hinduism. similarly non christians should not abuse christianity. thats the best way to have a peacful society.
The place where Islam took birth showing a broader vision, The temples, Churches in the Middle east are the proof of it.
RE:I think Moderate Mulims need help from Hindus..
by QandA on Nov 04, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
Your wrong dude.. This not about worshipping. This is about equal laws and justice for all and one common India... At the moment disputed are solved on roads using Bombs and Swords. Did anybody even heard about Modi before somebody burned 50 people. Also if Court and Law and Order was working in India there was no need for any riots. The culprits could have been caught and hanged in the COURT OF LAW.. So SOLUTION TO ALL PROBLEMS IS FIXING THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. ONE OF THE PRIME ASPECT OF JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS THAT IT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY EVERYBODY. AS FAR AS CIVIL LAWS ARE CONSIDERED INDIAN LAWS ARE SEGGREGATED BY RELIGION AND CRIMINAL LAWS ARE NOT. ONCE ALL LAWS ARE AT PAR WITH 21'ST CENTURRY HUMAN RIGHTS THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL...
