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by anand ganesh on May 11, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Excellent Analysis. Dear RahimAli. God Bless u for telling the truth. Truth should be told to muslims in India. That is the solution. Opposition should be directed at ideas(Islam).
THERE SHOULD BE NO PHYSICAL VIOLENCE ON MUSLIMS OR ANYONE. OPPOSE AND LIQUIDATE IDEAS NOT HUMANS!!!!!!! TARGET IDEAS (ISLAM) NOT PEOPLE(MUSLIMS). DO YE ALL HEAR ME.CONVINCE PEOPLE BY PRESENTING FACTS AND NOT BY HEAPING ABUSES ON THEM!!!CONVINCE PEOPLE!DONT ABUSE THEM!
All people in India and other South Asian Countries should read what Anwar Sheikh says in "What is Prophet"(www.islam-watch.org)
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by FAHAD MOMIN on May 11, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Can you tell the name and period of the ruler who cut the throat of hindus and forced them to convert to Islam? I'll be glad if you give the number of the people killed by him(them)?
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by RR on May 11, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Rahim ali.
Until unless the muslim community whole heartedly condemn the terrorist activity happening in India, the situation won't change. Whenever some terrorist activity happening the condemnation is something in paper only.
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by anand ganesh on May 11, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Dear Ateeq, Many have started leaving Islam in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Iran. Pls visit www.towelians.wordpress.com and www.islam-watch.org
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by shafeeq rahman on May 11, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Can you show these records in authentic history books. My dear, Muslim are not spreading terrorism but they are killed in riots and in fake encounters. I am not sure when our country people able to think in right strem.
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by anand ganesh on May 11, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Good Shafeeq. U have an open mind.Visit sites such as www.towelians.wordpress.com and www.islam-watch.org. There u will come to know the truth about Islam. Do you deny that Hindus were killed in Kashmir in 1980s and 1990s in large numbers by muslims? They are refugees in their own country.
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by anand ganesh on May 11, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
ALL INDIANS-PLS OPEN YOUR EYES TO CERTAIN FACTS. DONT SQUABBLE AMONGST YOUSELVES.JUST see what terrorists have in mind for India(WHAT THEY THINK OF INDIANS-HINDUS&MUSLIMS) "Jamhooria Islamia", a monthly Baluchi magazine published from Panj-gar, published an interview with Maulana Nawabzadaa Nabiullah Khan, a confidant of and adviser to the Amir of leading Pakistani Islamic party, Jamaat-e-Islami, Maulana Qazi Ahmed, which was conducted by Jalil Amir. Read the following excerpts from the interview: Q: Do you envision a possibility that when Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan, there could be large-scale riots in India against Indian Muslims? Hence unwittingly Kashmir could lead to more deaths of Indian Muslims and damage Islamic Ummah. A: Yes that is a possibility. But our ideology is based on Quran and Hadiths. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) in numerous Hadiths and Allah in Quran had said that any Muslim who associates with a polytheist is a polytheist. Muslims cannot be friendly with a non-Muslim. This includes the Christians, Jews and Hindus. Also Mohammad (PBUH) says that even if the Muslim ruler is not good, the Muslims stay with the ruler rather than go out to a non-Muslim country. Hadiths and Quran are very explicit regarding this. All the Muslims who did not migrate to Pakistan during Partition are in essence Hindus. They may think that they are Muslims. But not before Allah.
They are as self-deluded as the Ahmaddiahs who think they are Muslims when everyone knows that they are not Muslims. Hence the Muslims of India who had decided to stay in India during Partition are not Muslims and their progeny are not Muslim (since they did not migrate to Muslim lands).
Another thing that I noticed in my journeys in India is that the Hindu farmers generally offer their entire harvest to their gods at the end of their harvesting season. This makes the entire crop as haram for Muslims. Yet these so-called Muslims of India are forced to eat this food which was already offered to some other God other than Allah. This is explicitly forbidden in Quran.
And this is one of the serious problems of living in non-Muslim countries. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) knew such things; that is why he ordered Muslims not to live in non-Muslim areas. Yet knowingly these so-called Muslims live in India. AGAIN ALL THE MUSLIMS WHO MIGRATE TO OTHER NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND US ARE NON MUSLIMS. Only the Muslims who intend to come back are Muslims not the ones who decide to stay in such countries. Hence we do not care if such Indian Muslims die in the riots.
The Kashmiri Muslims are pure Muslims who are toiling under the yoke of Hindu rule.
They are victimized by the international conspiracy to keep them under the Hindu rule.
That issue is part of the incomplete Partition, whereas the Indian Muslims have accepted Partition and stayed on in India knowingly.
In his opinion, Arabia should not allow any non-Muslim into the holy lands of Arabia. Arabia should be 100% pure. A large number of Hindus in Arabia is corrupting the Arabians. Though they live as contractors, they have the potential to corrupt the minds of the Arabians.
One such thing is the presence of Arabians in the Qatar Hindu temple. First the king allowed the Hindus to build a temple and church in the holy lands, thereby polluting the Holy Land. Second is that even a member of the Royal family visited that temple to inaugurate that temple. To the horror of Qazi, he had learnt that one of the powerful members of the Qatar Royal family is a devotee of a god called Aayappan. This news resolved Qazi to fight the force of the devil thousand fold.
Q: Such things happen in Pakistan today. I mean a friend of mine goes to a Hindu temple. Another friend goes to church meetings. A: Yes. One of Qazi's relatives wanted to become a Hindu. He did not have a child for many years and it seems he had prayed to a Hindu God and got the child. Hence he felt thankful to that god and wanted to become a Hindu. Qazi got to know of this and called him and threatened him with dire consequences. That relative did not become a Hindu. But that incident made Qazi read more about apostasy.
Quran and Hadith clearly say the punishment for abandonment of Islam is death. Since Sharia is not the law in Pakistan, and the current Pakistani Constitution grants the right to change religion, it is legally correct to declare oneself as Hindu or Christian. But once the JI takes over the government, it will make Sharia as the Constitution. Then Pakistan will also legally execute any person who leaves Islam and joins Ahmaddiah, Christianity or Hinduism the same way Iran and Taliban treats its apostates. He also opined that the presence of the Hindu temples in Pakistan is the root cause of the problem and hence we want to destroy all the Hindu temples and Churches in Pakistan.
Q: The secular journalists of Pakistan oppose the JI. For example the Dawn and News are very critical of the JI. How do you see their role in the future? A: Ardheshir Cowasjee is able to work only because of the present Constitution of Pakistan. When Sharia becomes the Constitution, he cannot even approach the court, as he is a kafir. We see secular journalists as our main enemy in the current struggle to reach power. These secular journalists are digging our statements we made during the pre-Independence days and trying to beat us. Of course we opposed the creation of Pakistan during the British times. But that was a different Jamaat. Our history starts with Independence.
Secular journalists are not Muslims even though some of them are carrying Muslim names. Let them come to us and let us ask questions on the Quran and Hadiths. We will prove each and every thing we say is from Quran and Hadiths. Let them prove what we say as wrong from the Quranic angle. Then we will accept them. But they cannot. They cannot match us in any debate concerning the Quran and Hadiths. We can comprehensively prove that they are indeed non-Muslims.! They are like Quadianis who say that the Muslim need not take up Jihad as an obligation. That is pure nonsense.
