In the case of arrests for crimes planned or in the process of implementation or actual execution in any civilised society the police are expected to put them behind bars. No one except fascist forces plan to execute people because they are alleged to have planned or committed crimes without them having the right to prove their innocence in a court of law.
In this article several inept attempts have been made to subtly show such cold blooded murders in good light and then they are condemned in words - showing duplicity right down the middle of this column.
However even if Shorabuddin was a petty criminal there was no reason to execute him by claiming he was an LeT operative especially when there are people with much much more blood on their hands like the Sangh Parivaris - those whose inflammatory speeches have caused loss of life and limb and spilt innocent blood of minorities whose only crime is not be falling in their foolish definition of Indian.
I do not support such fascists thoughts. I am only pointing out that if you are right then the major criminals should be eliminated first.
RE:Bizarre thought Processes!
by deetee on May 24, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
iyer your thoughts are idealistic. you might be a nice person but what you think cannot be implemented practically. there are some who believe that Indian kingdoms lost in battle to islamic invaders simply because the invaders did not follow the same rules of battle that the indian kingdoms did. that is why you cannot be completely "nice and just" with criminals. because criminals by definition and nature are not going to do "nice and just" things. Sohrabuddin has a long record, he was abdul latifs (dawood man in ahmedabad-killed in encounter by vaghela government)driver, they say he was a "petty criminal" how on earth can any petty criminal even dream of extorting money from big businessmen kauserbis death is unfortunate, but then if she had stayed with her husband and three children and not chosen a life with a known history-sheeter she would still be alive. Rajeev is trying to say that today encounter killings have become a necessary evil, and that is all. if that thought is "facist" then so be it.
RE:Bizarre thought Processes!
by Varun Shekhar on May 29, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
Good one, deetee. Many people assume that the terrorists and criminals fight "fair", and hence deserve honourable treatment. Nothing of the kind. And yes, fighting fair cost India its independence for 800 years.
RE:Bizarre thought Processes!
by Marshal Tito on May 24, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
Islamic terrorists are facist forces trying to intimidate the society by bomb blasts. They have declared war (Jihad) on India and therefore are not civilians, but war combatants. They are therefore shot down, just as enemies in a war are shot down.
Imagine in the next Indo-Pak war, the left/liberal/commies force Indian army to not kill Pak soldiers but arrest them and present them in a court!!
It is war dude, and shoot at sight is the norm.
India Today reported that Vanzara had created such a terror among Muslims that they do not want to provide any help to fundamentalists for bomb blasts, and that is they reason why Gujarat has remained terrorism free under Modi's reign.
You idealist bleeding heart brigade is unable to solve any problem facing the society. You faint on mere sight of blood. People like you are sitting ducks for people who carry a gun.
RE:Bizarre thought Processes!
by V H on May 25, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
Iyer - dude were where you all these years. Encounter killing has been happening since long time? TN kicked you guys out. Now its time to kick you out of India along with these terrorists
RE:Bizarre thought Processes!
by sm on May 25, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
Leftists like you are forever denigrating their own culture and life-systems, sleeping with the enemies (Islamists, Christian fanatics, Secular scum and Maoists) who want the destruction and fragmentation of Hindu society at large first; followed by destruction of India itself. It's a mistake to label guys like you as Left-liberal!! Leftists are never liberals; whosoever thought of it!!
Leftists-Communists under Stalin had a pact with Hitler till 1940; birds of a feather flocked together- it was an uneasy truce during which both these MASS MURDERERS inspected each others arsenals!! Only close friends can see one another's toys!! Greed, misplaced trust got the better of them esp. Hitler and led to the Nazis fighting their erstwhile friends - the Commies. DON'T FORGET THIS FACT, Mr Iyer!! Both Nazis and Communists have mercilessly killed their detractors or sent them to concentration camps/ gulags!! Hindus themselves - passive, timid(like you!!) or broad minded - lived with others for centuries inspite of their land, homes, women and children being taken away at the point of the sword; were subjected to gruesome genocides by these very Muslims over a MILLENIUM, Hindu/ Sikh womenfolk were subjected to every dishonour unimaginable!!
Today these very Muslim descendants are crying hoarse to defend a criminal Jihadi's life.....just because he is a Muslim!! They like Mohammad Ali would still support a 'fallen Muslim' to a kind Hindu (Ali brothers reference to the murderer of Swami Shraddhanand in the early 1940s) and still get support from Spineless Gandhis!!
Sangh is not what it is made out to be. If left to the activists the whole of India could've burned each time it was banned(thrice) and millions of Muslim households would have mourned during Partition! That didn't happen; only millions of Hindu households were left shattered, for the patience and temerity shown by Sangh leaders, swayamsevaks and is still mistakenly shown.
I know that 'Educated, Egoistic and Arrogant' Hindus like are in the FIFTH COLUMN of India n Hindu -bashers (along with the Missionaries, Mullahs n Maoists). I used to be one amongst you. I feel ashamed to be called Secular. Religion and the State were always separate in India since thousands of years before the Muslim Kingdoms!! Where is it's place now??? Communally yours - Sushil Manoharan
