RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Gurdeep Sohal on May 21, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
Hinduism got protection from a community which was in minority at that time, otherwise Aurangjeb must have finished from Kashmiri Pandits to Kanyakumari. So there would not have been any minority now. We must should learn to respect other have done for us.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Bikram thapa on May 21, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Get your history right man. It was Marathas who kept Aurangzeb busy.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by jitender singh on May 21, 2007 05:33 PM Permalink
Look now we got into the unwarranted argument !!!!! :)
RE:RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Vinay Gupta on May 21, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
Bhai Bikram, our value system which is known as Hindu ( Before muslim giving name to it was nt felt but after they came all other than muslim were called Hindu) could be saved due to efforts of many. But is true that Punjab faced the burnt most.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Bikram thapa on May 21, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
There were two muslim forces and not one working at that time. Moghuls and Afghans. During the time of early moghuls, when this supposedly Sikh protection was happening, ie when the Sikh as martial concept was not there. The Sikhs survived and grew strong because of Moghul's pre-occupation with Marathas. But the sikhs mostly fought with Afghan Invaders cause by that time the Moghuls were very weak. The Punjab was only a gateway during those times and there was nothing in Punjab to loot. The punjab as properous as we see today is after, and due to British. Also keep in mind the Rajput and Jat factor in Khalsa Panth. During Initial days of Khalsa it was Rajputs whoe were mostly fighter Sikhs like Bandha Bahadur, who was a rajput, but then the Jats started to dominate the Sikhs who were extremly anti-brahmins. That took Sikhism away from Hinduism creating its own independent identity. So as they say "Sar Katta ke leiya sardaria ney" lets us see if these Saccha Sodaa's have it in them.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Vinay Gupta on May 21, 2007 05:24 PM Permalink
Bhai Fateh, Who are hindu? if every one who got protection was hindu then who was non hindu. Bhai, Rajput, Bulenkhandi, Raja Krishna Dev Rai, Guru from Punjab all were Indians/ natives who were known as Hindu. So hindu is geopgraphical name and not a religion
RE:RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Gurdeep Sohal on May 21, 2007 05:35 PM Permalink
Prithviraj and marathas were hindu itself and foundation of Hinduism is Brahaman, which was protected by guru ji by laying their life. Request you to understand it properly and get some books on this.
RE:RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Vinay Gupta on May 21, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
Gurdeep, who is denying. Every hindu have great respect for all Gurus. Sikhs have to retrospect that they are taking Gurus away from hindus
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by satinder pal singh on May 21, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
My Dear Friend, Right of Minority does not mean that one should play with the religious emotions of any Religion/Community. Tommorrow U will say that these Dera Sacha Sauda people should get reservations in the Govt. Jobs,etc. Friend try to understand the difference between Minority And people playing with your religions/Community.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Vinay Gupta on May 21, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
Bhai Satinder, I agree with your veiw point . I only want those so called secularists and champion of freedom of speech to come out and speak something. They spew venom when such issue happen with Hindus
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by satinder pal singh on May 21, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
My Dear vivek BhaiSahab, Remember one thing that for your Hindu Religion our Guru's have laid down their lives to protect your Janju/ Mandirs,hindu Community, when mughals were behind you, so U should be also ready to do the same after so many years as somebody is trying the religion/Community who has safeguarded you many years ago.
RE:RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by satinder pal singh on May 21, 2007 05:23 PM Permalink
SIR, Sorry I mis spelled your name . My Dear Vinay, Be ready to sacrifice , as somebody is to attack the Community from Back ,who has safeguarded your Hindu Religion. For clarification U can certainly ask your Elders also, if I am stating any thing wrong.
RE:RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by Vinay Gupta on May 21, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
Bhai Satinder, I am with my sikh brothers.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by satinder pal singh on May 21, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
Thanks , We are made for one another, but please remember no one for us can be equal to RAMJI, KRISHANJI, ALLAH, MATA,etc. Those who say this will never accept these BABA'S & DERA'S who take there symbols & teach them to how to be INSAAN. If he is making INSAANs then all other religions are making GADDA's (DONKEY's).They have said that they will donate their organs to other people, I appeal to the BABA of this sacha sauda Dera to Donate his one of KIdney to anybody. He can not do so because who take s lives/freedom of somebody cannot give to others. If he has not done any thing wrong let him apologise to the GURU's to whom he say HAM GURUON KI NAKAL NAHIN KADAR KARTE HAIN.
RE:The custodian of rights of minority (Dera Saucha) should come forward
by jagar singh on May 21, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
only killers till now are dera men.they beat sikhs in bathinda and killed one in sunam.who is insecure-the murderers and rapists.
