Some of the Guys in this Board Pointed out that the Bombs are made in Mosques ???? Weird statements.. You have made good assumptions on Mosques, as Hatred Preaching Centers.. If you are ready with a Open Mind, come with me I will take you to a Madrassa. Spend all the Time you want to, Read all the Books and attend all the Religious Lectures... Stay as much as you can, It think then you will understand that what ever you are thinking is Wrong.... If you are really Open Minded come with Me, or if your Intention is just to Acuse Muslims, keep doing it for the Whole Life, Your acusing will not make any impact on Muslims...
Can you do the same Gesture, by inviting me to RSS Shakas, as a Indian Citizen I want to know, what great ideas you discuss on the Progress of Country...
I am confident that Mosques dont do anything against People, so I am inviting everyone.. if you have the same confidence, invite me to a RSS Shaka
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by HindWani on May 20, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
Ibrahim Sheik, you are welcome to RSS Sekha sit, observe and stay there as much as you can, Come with Open Mind, Don't come with Congress mark polluted mind. No RSS Seka told against about Muslims or other religions. RSS ask only one thing, Why Hindus bow their head in their own land. Why Hindus will ill treated by society in their mother land. Just take Religion as a Method of life system. Will you be agree 1400 yrs (approx) back there is no God, before Islam invention.
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by vijay on May 20, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
HINDUISM IS NOT THE OLDEST AND BEST RELIGION
Question
Hinduism is the oldest of all the religions and thus the, most pure, authentic and best of all the religions of the world.
Answer:
1. Islam is the oldest religion Hinduism is not the oldest of all the religions. It is Islam which is the first and the oldest of all religions. People have a misconception that Islam is 1400 years old and that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the founder of this religion. Islam existed since time immemorial, ever since man first set foot on this earth. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not the founder of Islam. He was the last and final Messenger of Almighty God.
2. The oldest religion need not be the purest and the most authentic religion A religion cannot be claimed to be most pure and authentic, only on the criterion that it is the oldest. It is similar to a person saying that the water he has kept in an open glass, in his house, outside the refrigerator, for three months is purer than the water which has just been collected in a clean glass, immediately after it has been purified.
3. The latest religion need not be the purest and the most authentic religion On the other hand a religion cannot be claimed to be the purest or authentic, only on the criterion that the religion is new or the latest. A bottle of distilled water which is sealed, packed and kept in the refrigerator for three months is much purer than a bottle of water freshly collected from the sea.
4. For religion to be pure and authentic, it should not have interpolations, changes and revisions in its scriptures revealed from God For any religion to be pure and authentic, its scriptures should not contain any interpolation, addition, deletion or revision. Moreover the religion%u2019s source of inspiration and direction should be Almighty God. The Qur%u2019an is the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which has been maintained it its original form. All the other religious scriptures, of all the other religions have interpolations, additions, deletions or revisions. The Qur%u2019an has been in the memory of a multitude of people, intact in its original form ever since its revelation, and now there are hundreds of thousands of people who have preserved it in their memory. Moreover, if you compare the copies made by Caliph Uthman from the original Qur%u2019an which is yet present in the museum in Tashkent and in Koptaki museum in Turkey, they are the same as the ones we possess today.
Allah (swt) promises in the Qur%u2019an, in Surah Al Hijr, chapter 15 verse 9
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
5. The oldest religion need not be best religion A religion cannot be claimed to be the best religion only on the criterion that it is the oldest. It is similar to a person saying, that my 19th century car is better than a Toyota car manufactured in 1998, because it is older. He would be considered to be a fool to say that his 19th century car which required a rod to be turned in circles to start it, is better than a key-start 1998 Toyota car, just because it is older.
6. The latest religion need not be the best religion On the other hand a religion cannot be called as the best religion only on the criterion that the religion is new or that it came later. It is similar to a person who says that my 800 cc Suzuki car manufactured in 1999 is better than a 5000 cc Mercedes 500 SEL manufactured in 1997. To judge which car is better, a person should compare the specifications of the car e.g. the power of the car, safety measures, the capacity of the cylinders, the pickup, the speed, the comfort, etc. 5000 cc Mercedes, 500 SEL car manufactured in 1997, is far superior and better than a 800 cc Suzuki (Maruti Suzuki 800) manufactured in 1999.
7. A religion is best, if it has the solutions to the problems of mankind For a religion to be considered the best, it should have the solution to all the problems of mankind. It should be the religion of truth, and should be applicable to all ages. Islam is the only religion which has the solution to all the problems of mankind. e.g. the problem of alcoholism, surplus women, rape and molestation, robbery, racism, casteism, etc.
Islam is the religion of truth, and its laws and solutions are applicable to all the ages. The Qur%u2019an is the only religious book on the face of the earth, which has maintained its purity and authenticity proving itself to be the word of God in all the ages. i.e. previously, when it was the age of miracles, literature and poetry and in present times when it is the age of science and technology. Moreover, Islam is not a man-made religion, but a religion revealed and inspired by Almighty God. It is the only religion acceptable in His Sight.
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by gaurav chitnis on May 20, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
The reason why it remained unhanged is because you people do not believe in reform. I mean even if you keep ANY book without changing it, it s going to remain unchanged. For that reason you guys have remained largely illiterate. And for that matter even our Vedas and oter holy books have remained unchanged. Check it out.
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by Srikumar SN on May 20, 2007 07:40 PM Permalink
hey vijay .. u r muslim in disguise. It shows how insecure and timid u r. so a timid persons always thinks like a fanatic. A fanatic does not know and hear any thing except what he thinks.
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by gaurav chitnis on May 20, 2007 08:24 PM Permalink
Vijay, you are talking like Zakir Naik's parrot. I mean no need repeat what he says. And yes, you are definitely a muslim in disguise. And if you are so against Hindus, why are you using a Hindu name?
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by on May 20, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
My suggestion there should be no religious community.. why should there be communities and point finger at each other.. any such communities just spread negative vibes about other religion increase such..sorrowful acts.. please..please .. please spread PEACE.. stop pointing each other.. never will this end.. as long as you point other.. some other is winning and is happy ..becoz.. he is getting what he want... for human sake and PEACE sake.. try spreading LOVE and Care and Concern
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by coolhere on May 20, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
please we are not speakin abt RSS we are speakin abt relegious places n u come with me i will take u to temple where people are tauhgt to respect al religions n thtas why u ppl rae still in india
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 20, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Dear COOL HERE, I am student of Architecture, I have Visited almost all the TEMPLES.. to admire the ART... But I am particularly Interested to visit RSS DENS, they project as if they are the representatives of this Country.. As a Fellow Indian, I want to know what they really discuss...
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by vijay on May 20, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
Why Rss not hoist our national flag on thier HQ at Nagpur on 26th jan & 15 aug . NOW DECIDE WHO IS ANTI NATIONAL MUSLIM OR RSS ? RSS love safforn or tricolour ? who dont respect national flag they dont have right to reside in india.
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by subbu ayya ramasamy on May 20, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
Vijay, I know you are a muslim under guise!Are u hoisting national falg on independance day-so if not you are a foreigner!What a logic-I think your muslim brain does not work!
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by subbu ayya ramasamy on May 20, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
Reply how the muslims in pakistan and its government project itself?How secular other muslim countries in the world-please be honest and reply.don't you have forces funded and trained by muslim countries to force convert and indulge in bombing activities?Which madarasa you are talking about-visit the ones near Nepal border and you can learn what they are there for!
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by Devendra Jain on May 20, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
Dear Friend RSS Shakhas are normaly held in an open area not in close door you can go any time if you wants to go.
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by gaurav chitnis on May 20, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
We are not talking about only one madarssa where you will take us. That one might be very good, but it does not prove anything about other madarssas all over the world where hatred against non-muslims especially jews is preached.
And for your information there are many mulims in RSS, Shiv Sena andthe BJP but no non-muslims in madarssas.
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by coolhere on May 20, 2007 07:10 PM Permalink
unnecessarily dont blame RSS n others the dact is your lineage also wud belong to hindus ur forefasthere or someone wuds have been forced to become muslimas n i can bet you on it n now tell me one thing dont muslims trouble people in other countries n yes did u see the latest news pakistan mullas forcing christians n hindus to get converted n yes another thing islam has taken many things from Hindus hinduism is thre oldest bopnafide religion in the world n still they respect all religions but u ppl are tauhgt fron the young age to hate hindus thtrs the problsm No religion has festivals to respect women like hindus do n one such is raksha bandhan n its only in hindus n repect all relations unlike some ppl
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by Srikumar SN on May 20, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
Hey Ibrahim Common who stop u from comming to shakha's. U have every right to know what we discuss in shaka's.
I will show in hyderabad.. when pakistan wins these people celebrate by bursting crackers. What r these things.
Hatredness against hindu's is not there in villages. It is rampant in city. A hindu and muslim live in same house. Where as it is different.
But still if u r from hyderabd come to shaka in nizam college grounds, in hyderabad.
If u r unable then I want to tell you few things...
A shaka is nver held to hate other religions. It says how to save ur religion. And there is lot of difference in that.
Ashka discusses about of parampara.
It gives in veda's perspective how to live ur life i humane way.
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by vijay on May 20, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
unnecessarily dont blame MADARSAS n others the Fact is your lineage also wud belong to MUSLIMS ur forefathere or someone wuds have been forced to become HINDUS n i can bet you on it n now tell me one thing dont HINDUS trouble Muslim christians dalits in India people in other countries n yes did u see the latest news RSS BAJRANGI SHIV SENA FORCING Christians n buddhist to get converted n yes another thing hinduism has taken many things from muslims Islam is the oldest bopnafide religion in the world n still they respect all religions but u ppl are tauhgt fron the young age to hate Muslims thtrs the problsm.
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by mohamed rayees on May 20, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
dear coolhere, first man Adam we believe as our,ur forefather is muslim.latter his generation started idol worship,to demolish this god sent messengers like moosa(moses),isa(jesus)finaly prophet mohamed(pbuh),though all our forefathers(u&me) were converted to idol worship by saatan,but by godsgrace now we back to our mother relegion of ISLAM. NOW SAY WHO IS CONVERTED?????????
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 20, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
Hello Gaurav, I have visited most of the Madrassas in India and in Middle East, still I have not came across, Hatred preaching... Islam never Promotes Hatred... Come with me ... to get rid of Mis-conceptions... Also come to Darghas in every place, all are seen as fellow human beings. In some Darghas, the Hindus out number Muslims... But very few Hindus come and learn the Literature in Madrassa.. YOu are Invited --- come and see the Truth before Acusing us... You name any Madrassa, I will try my best to take you there...
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by gaurav chitnis on May 20, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
Well obviously they will not preach any hatred when there is someone touring them. But it has been proved many many times that hatred against non muslims, especially jews is preached.
I understad that there might not be any hatred in Darghas since it is frequented by non-muslims.
And lastly I agree that Islam oes not preach hatred, but at the same time please don't deny all these acts around you. Also, majority of the outlawed organizatons happen to be Islamic.
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by Tabrez on May 20, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
Yes.. you may be right.. but they are outlawed just bcoz of the fact that they are Muslim organisation.. Its mental warfare bro, please understand that...
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by gaurav chitnis on May 20, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
Well, I don't think so. In this manner you are completely denying any Islamic hand in ay terrorist strike. Do you mean that LeT, JeM, Al-Qaeda are banned just because they are Islamic? They are all outlawed because of their activites.
