RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE? by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 06:36 PM MARATHAs AND RAJPUTs WERE GAINING FREEDOM BECAUSE OF AURANGZEB'S COMMUNAL POLICIES. STILL AURAGNZEB WAS STONG ENOUGH TO COMMAND AUTHORITY.
DO YOU KNOW IN 1857 MOGHAL EMPIRE WAS BACK IN POWER, ALTHOUGH FOR A SHORT WHILE? IT WAS RAJPUTS AND MUSLIM PRINCES TOGETHER ENTHRONED BAHADUR SHAH II.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by on May 19, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
Marathas gave continuous trouble to Mughal. Till 16th century mid, Vijayanagara empire prevented muslims from spreading further south and the arrival of British almost stopped Muslims from converting Hindus.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
MARATHAs AND RAJPUTs WERE GAINING FREEDOM BECAUSE OF AURANGZEB'S COMMUNAL POLICIES. STILL AURAGNZEB WAS STONG ENOUGH TO COMMAND AUTHORITY.
DO YOU KNOW IN 1857 MOGHAL EMPIRE WAS BACK IN POWER, ALTHOUGH FOR A SHORT WHILE? IT WAS RAJPUTS AND MULIM PRICES TOGETHER ENTHRONED BAHADUR SHAH II.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
At a time, when we dont have weapons like missles s and rockets which you can fire from the comfort of your room, what made the small minority muslims to rule the country not for 10,20 years but for almost 800 years?If they are cruel as depicted by historian "Errampalle Jawahardatham" what the majority doing at that time?Is not a shame that their forefathers were so spinless? NO.The truth is India was proposerous only during Mugal rule, thats why it invited british,dutch and french for Commerce.Please note they came for trading which means India was wealthy at that time.If muslim rules were barabric?why the hell all muslims hindus together enthroned bagadur shah jafar? "Errampalle Jawahardatham" is blind because of the hatred he has towards muslims
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by balaord on May 19, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
At a time, when we dont have weapons like missles s and rockets which you can fire from the comfort of your room, what made the small minority muslims to rule the country not for 10,20 years but for almost 800 years?If they are cruel as depicted by historian "Errampalle Jawahardatham" what the majority doing at that time?Is not a shame that their forefathers were so spinless? NO.The truth is India was proposerous only during Mugal rule, thats why it invited british,dutch and french for Commerce.Please note they came for trading which means India was wealthy at that time.If muslim rules were barabric?why the hell all muslims hindus together enthroned bagadur shah jafar? "Errampalle Jawahardatham" is blind because of the hatred he has towards muslims.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
1. The theory that India was prosperous under Moghuls has no basis. In fact before the industrial revolution prosperity was limited only to feudal lords, big landlords and high govenment officials, and tax collectors who enjoyed life.
2. Indians were divided in to different castes and lacked unity. This is a weakness of this society.
3. Hindu princes supported the Bahadur Shah's ascendency, becasue the spark at that time was rumours that cow fat was applied to the cartridges. They were in state of confusion. Also the memory Hindus is short--they quickly forgive and forget. This happened several times in history. They trust people quickly--this is a weakness, but not brutality.
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by on May 19, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
Mr. Balaord, Please read History first before writing anything. Muslims invaded many countries and converted the entire population (Egypt, Iran, Afghanistan etc), but they couldn't convert entire India. Because there was continuous resistance from them. Marathas and Vijayanagara empired prevented them from converting and eventually the arrival of British made a complete stop.
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by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
can you please tell me which muslim army invaded indonesia, Malaysia , parts of philipines? Also can you explain how come kashmir had a Hindu king when the najority were muslims?
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by avinash sutar on May 19, 2007 07:42 PM Permalink
previusly kishmir is under mughal empire they convert allmost hindus . latter kashmir taken by dogra king. all muslim urges to king return to hindu realision but pundits oppeses king to permit muslim return to hindus. pundits and remaining country still pay prise for that.
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by on May 19, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
You were saying Hindus were spineless. India was invaded by Muslims and couldn't convert completely where as they converted other countries by Invasion like Afghanistan Egypt etc. My point is Hindus were not spineless. In 14th Centurty Malik ka fur invaded almost southern part of India. But later Vijayanagar empire drove them out and prevent from spreading south till mid of 16th century. Marathas were giving continuous trouble to Mughals. I am talking about Hindus resistance. Why are you talking about Malaysia and philipines?
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by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
Majority resisting a minority for 800 years? how that is possible unless the majority liked those rulers?
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by on May 19, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
Kashmir was bought from British by Gulab Singh for (Rupees) 75 lakhs. Refer below URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jammu_and_Kashmir#Muslim_rule
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by on May 19, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Mr. balaord, In Hindus only Khastriyas will go for war. But muslim kings had a huge number of slaves in their armies and they didn't have family and they just lived to fight.
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by on May 19, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
You are really funny. In your message you are saying "a Muslim popluation fired with a zeal of unity of purpose and democratic ideology of brotherhood. " It is a great joke. See in pakistan. Shias Sunnis are killing themselves and there is no democracy at all.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by avinash sutar on May 19, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
muslim can rull our country reasons is they inveded cannon first time in india They have faster arbi horses. because they become stronger in each war. in1857 bahadur shah promiss tatya tope n bajirao peshwa to indipendent state.
RE:RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by on May 19, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
Yeah you are right. Muslims acquired canons and other war tactics from Europe. As christians fought with muslims in different Crusades they were able to acquire latest weapons like Canons and guns.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by Sushilkumar Dubey on May 19, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
Was India not prosperous before the Muslim came to India? Better you read the ancient history before jumping to stupid conclusion like this.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by ateeq rahman on May 19, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
SO, U WANT TO FIGHT WITH THEM. DONT BLAME ISLAM U STUPID U DONT KNOW ISLAM WHAT SAY FIRST TRY TO READ THEN SAY. OR WE ARE ALSO READY FOR U.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
I am not against any religion. I never say all the Muslims are terrorists. But most of the terrists are Muslims--what is the reason? Do you have an answer?
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by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
you are very smart for this finding. LTTE,NAXAL,ULFA,MOAISTS are avowed gandhians.
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by Sreedhara KS on May 19, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
Ateeq rahman, Don't jump around too much..you r also a converted muslim. Check your family tree.Your forefathers were hindus. Coward people who could not fight against muslims got converted. Those who faught and survived are still hindus. You are welcome back to hindu fold.
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by ateeq rahman on May 19, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
Mr. SACHIN INDIA IN MY BLOOD. U WANT TO LEAVE INDIA. U DOING SO EXTRA DO SAY MORE
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by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Indian is my country.who are you to ask me to leave this country?My forefather have rules this nation and sacrified their blood during independence
RE:RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:11 PM Permalink
Muslims - Cowards? Are you deaf , dump and blind?Even today when they are powerless, are you not seeing how they are taking on US,UK,Australia and europe togther? when you guys are busy licking the feet of US and israel?
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by on May 19, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
You guys always kill kafirs or atleast try to give some trouble, whether you are powerful or powerless.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by ateeq rahman on May 19, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
MAY BE HINDU SO WHAT ? NOW I AM MUSLIM I LIKE MY COUNTRY LIKE AS LIKE AS MY RELIGION BUT THIS COMMUNUAL PEOPLE LIKE BJP , VHP AND RSS THEY MAKE LOTS OF PROBLEM ONLY FOR MUSLIM WHY? I WANT TO ASK U TELL ME WHY?
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by avinash sutar on May 19, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
they couldnot appite easily that they converted forcely . sch bhout kadva hota hai.
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by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
Stupid,Have some common sense?Even if you calculate the total number of people killed by the so called terrorism, it wont amount to more than 10,000(including 9/11). Do you know how many millions gor killed during world war 1 and world war 2? do you know how many people killed duirng korean and vietnam wars? Muslims never start war unless provoked as in the case of Iraq,palestine,chechenya And understand in all these places they are powerless against mighty army,but still they are fighting.This is a not becuase of desire of wordly dominatin unlike the superpowers which kill millions
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by Sreedhara KS on May 19, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Who asked you to follow brahmin books????did anyone force you to study this? Hinduism is not just brahminism. It is a way of life. It is dharma. Just like Pitru Dharma, mathru Dharma, Raja Dharma etc. If you don't want to follow any dharma you become barbaric. You will not respect others. Since the hindus are in mejority, our country is secular.
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by on May 19, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
1) Personal Civil Law was made to appease muslims by congress. 2) This is because religion is becoming business and some groups are doing Marketing to spread their religion. 3)But you can easily get beef in most parts of the India.
RE:WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY PEACE?
by balaord on May 19, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
Truth is Muslims and hindus liked peacefully together.Tipu had a Hindu defence minister is a proof for this. RSS/VHP psychos create a new history by saying Hindus were humiliated by muslims.It is a fiction. I admire Sivaji for his courage against the powerful Aurangazeb.I admire rajputs for the same reason. This is how I look at history. If muslims were so cruel, it only projects hindus on a bad light because of being tolerant for 800 years that too when they are the majority
