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Caste allowed conversions. Understand this..
by vijay on May 19, 2007 11:00 PM   Permalink | Hide replies



Hindhu caste system is root cause of most of the problems India facing today. Caste divided societies, so foreigners invaded and ruled about 1000 yrs. India was a slavery country for 1000 yrs.. Caste was the root cause, it did not and does not allow unity in India. Indians converted to christianism/Muslimism thanks to caste system.
If Hindhus want to stop conversions, They have to first focus on "CASTE" seriously and think of eliminating caste from Hindhu scriptures, otherwise, Hidhuism will be completely be routed out from the planet. Hindhuism is already on its way to exit. Wakeup if u want to save, focus on solution to Caste.


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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:11 PM   Permalink
This is again motivated lies:

1. Muslim Population in present day Uttar Pradesh, supposed home of "Brahminic Hinduism" which also saw long Muslim rule NEVER SAW MUSLIM POPULATION GOING BEYOND 20%.

This means DALITS FROM UTTAR PRADESH NEVER CONVERTED.

2. Rather it was from fringe like Eastern Bengal, North Western Punjab, where it was more like Buddhism, less Hinduism, PEOPLE CONVERTED TO ISLAM IN LARGE NUMBER.

3. North East India where in states like Mizoam, Nagaland converted to Xtianity DID NOT FOLLOW CASTEISM. Tribal Society is a Caste system.

4. Caste is NOT a Indian Word. Its "Varna". Hindu "Varna" is reduced to caste in the hands of Missionaries and Commies.


5. Large parts of the world where missionaries forcefully converted people, or still doing it, like in Sri Lanka, Thailand, Soth East Asia don't have "caste". Why they are doing it?

6. "Dalits" whatever small number converted to Xtianity DONOT GET EQUAL TREATEMENT in either Islam o Xtianity.

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by kuppuchamy Selvam on May 19, 2007 11:16 PM   Permalink
Mr. Chattopadhyay ,

Are you working in a Call center?

Are you nocturnal? You always logs into rediff at 11pm! Don't forget to have enough sleep, thambi!

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by vijay on May 19, 2007 11:19 PM   Permalink
Thats the problem with u guys. Caste ot Varna screwed India, understand this. Why majority of Indians who converted to Christianity/others are Dalits and Tribes?

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:24 PM   Permalink
learn hinduism first. have you read gandhi or Vivekanad's wrintings?

Don't dish out what missionaries say.

First learn what is Hinduims, and then talk.

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by vijay on May 19, 2007 11:26 PM   Permalink
Why do I have to read them. I know Gandhi was a caste freak. Vivekananda was an universal person.

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:42 PM   Permalink

@VIJOY: IF GANDHI OR VIVEKANAND DON;T REPRESENT HINDUS, WHAT'S THE HECK YOU KNOW ABOUT HINDUISM?

GANDHI IS RESPECTED BY ALL.

VIVEKANAND IS RESPECTED FROM ADVANI TO AB BARDHAN TO YECHURI.

ITS YOU CONVERTED FREAKS HELL BENT ON BAD MOUTHING HINDUISM.

NO WONDER VHP KICKS A*SS OF YOUR FOLKS, WHICH NOW GTETTING GROWING HINDU SUPPORT.

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:43 PM   Permalink

ITS GREATEST LIE THAT ISLAM GAVE EQUALITY.

NOWEHERE (I REPEAT NOWEHERE) IN MEDIEVAL TIMES, YOU WILL EVER FIND THAT MUSLIMS TALKED ABOUT EQUALITY.

IT WAS ALWAYS 'TRUE RELIGION VS FALSE'.

IT WAS ONLY AFTER FRENCH REVOLUTION, MUSLIMS STARTED TALKING ABOUT EQUALITY.

EVEN DURING THE TIMES OF FIRST FOUR JHALIFS, MUSLIMS WERE NOT TREATED EQUALLY.

IF YOU SEE THE ACCOUNT OF MUSLIMS WHO INVADED (SAY) IRAN, THERE WERE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR PAY, ALLOWANCES, FOOD, LIVING QUARTERS.

MUSLIMS OF ARABIC ORIGIN WAS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN NON-ARABIC ONES.

EVEN THERE WERE HEIRERCHY THE WAY ARABS WERE TREATED.


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by kuppuchamy Selvam on May 19, 2007 11:04 PM   Permalink
Vijay,

See my state's agenda. There is no discriminatio of caste and religion. Other states should follow Tamil Nadu model.

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by Errampalle Jawahardatham on May 19, 2007 11:16 PM   Permalink
Kuppuchamy

In Tamil Nadu major problem is with reservations. You just have to manage a certificate that you are OBC. You get everything. An OBC and equally poor Brahmin face equal problems. Then why reservations? Is it good? I think it is necessary that these reservations must be reduced to bring unity in the country so that we can fight the external enemies unitedly. Want to know answer.

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by kuppuchamy Selvam on May 19, 2007 11:17 PM   Permalink
Dear EJ,
I agree with you on your point. Dalit, minority appeasement must be removed from Indian Constitution.

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by vijay on May 19, 2007 11:25 PM   Permalink
Why someone does Dalit, minority appeasement? Remove social imbalances, then nobody will do appeasement



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by vijay on May 19, 2007 11:08 PM   Permalink
What u say if I say, Ur state people ill-treat other Indian nationals when they visit ur state. What would u do to stop it?

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by kuppuchamy Selvam on May 19, 2007 11:10 PM   Permalink
Vijay,
What did they do to you?

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:16 PM   Permalink

@vijay: read Gandhi and Vivekanand to understand what "varna" means. And What they prescribed for Hindu Society.

Its this apologetic Hindu attitude which is allowing Missionaries and Islamists to flex their muscle.

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by Gazanfar Z Azmi on May 19, 2007 11:10 PM   Permalink
Thank the Mughal Invaders and later the British raj who first of all united INdia as a whole OR ELSE it would have been small small states aka Africa and we would still have been in rpimitive stage. It was the Mughals and later the Britishers who gave the Indian Administration ,its railways and all such infrastricture which helped us being developed faster tha any other country. Today after 60 years of Independence there is no country near to India which can claim to have developed as fast as we have. But it is our inherent nature not to accept.

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by kuppuchamy Selvam on May 19, 2007 11:13 PM   Permalink
Azmi,
I cannot agree what progress Mughal invaders made in India? Yes of course they built Tmahal, QutubMinar etc.

What else did they? They looted Indias Gold and Diamonds etc..


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by mike on May 19, 2007 11:40 PM   Permalink
they thought you how to cloth yourself.....i guess tht is very important..othrwise u still would hav been-----------

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on May 19, 2007 11:14 PM   Permalink

First Indian Empire created by Chandrahupta was BIGGER than Mughal and British Empire.

Gupta Empire was also BIGGER than Mughal and British Empire.

Mayurya Empire precedes Mughal empire by some 2000 years!

Only Idiots speak like this without knowing facts.

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by Gazanfar Z Azmi on May 19, 2007 11:30 PM   Permalink
Can you please enlighten me as to what was the sate of India prior to Mughals invasion? Not 2000 years back you fool!!!! Next, all Invaders irrespective of thier origin were always waiting to loot.Were the hindu rulers any different... Please correct your knowledge on Invaders ????

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