Dear KA & Iyer, In Koran, every reader is given Independence to research and get benefitted, but not allowed to ADD or DELETE a verse.. I will tell you the difference between Hindus using Vedas and Muslims using Koran... Let us take the example of FOOT BALL game, the creator of the game, tells us clearly the Dos and DONTs of the game, then it is upto the Players to learn creatively by abiding the Rules.. That is what Islam says, it does not say don't do anything creative, but it says abide by the rules... In case of Hinduism, there are No clear Dos and DONTs, which meand somebosy will change the rules of the game by Handling the Ball... This is not Creativity, this is Breaking the Rules... So my suggestion, you have full Independence to Research Vedas but you dont have any authority to change, if you beleive it is a Word of God.. Hope you Understand the Difference between Creativity and Breaking a Rule... Ibrahim
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
Who gave you the Authority to REJECT the WORD of GOD, it is like saying I can follow only a Few Traffic Rules, but I can jump Traffic Lights, it is upto me.. If you cannot change MAN MADE Traffic Rules, then how can you change God made Rules...???
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by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
Ibrahim, I have quoted Chapter and Verse to back my arguments-from Gita as well as Quran. U r simply giving geralised examples and comparisons, abusing people -'hindu fanatic" "stupid" etc. QUOTE CHAPTER AND VERSE!!!FACTS PLEASE!!!
RE:FOOT BALL
by KA on May 16, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
Traffic needs change. In 7th century there were no cars. Today there are not only cars but truck and buses too. So you need new traffic laws, but Islam does not allow such change. This pre-empts progress.
RE:FOOT BALL
by KA on May 16, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
The rules are fixed for ever, there can be no progress. This is why democracy does not work in Islamic countries. Rules have already been fixed in 7th century, so you do not need lawmakers, you need only someone to interpret laws, ie mullhas and someone to enforce them, ie dictators.
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
Dear Santhosh I am not DEmoralized by your Acuse as a Terrorist....I know what is Islam.. I know about my Contribuition to India.. I dont have to prove my Patriotism to cheap guys like you...
RE:FOOT BALL
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
Ibrahim. Stop parroting what u have heard from here and there. Quote Chapter and verse. FACTS! FACTS! FACTS! No generalised examples or comparisons. PRESENT FACTS. PRESENT FACTS. QUOTE CHAPTER AND VERSE. NO GENERALISED OBSERVATIONS pLEASE.
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
Dear Iyer, I am not a Maulana to Know all the Verses of Koran with reference Numbers, but if you want I will pick for you Tomorrow... Things will never contradict in Koran...Because the Truth Propagates Dynamically and no one can stop it...
RE:FOOT BALL
by KA on May 16, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
There are many contradictions in Koran. Please visit http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26769
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by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Ibrahim Dear. This shows u have neither read the Quran nor the Gitanor Vedas. U r simply parrotting things told to u by others. Even I am neither a Maulana nor a Pandit. But I read religious texts to help develop myself. And I never comment unless I can back it up with facts. READ THE QURAN CAREFULLY. TAKE YOUR TIME. DO U KNOW HOW MANY SURAS (CHAPTERS R THERE IN QURAN) AND HOW MANY ADHYAYAS(CHAPTERS) R THERE IN GITA???????
RE:FOOT BALL
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
Dear ANAND I know what are you doing, in Internet Sites there are Plenty of Articles, which take a few lines and giving a Wrong Interpretation. I am Damn sure that you are not picking from Koran.. Instead you Pick from web sites, which try to defame Islam.. I can read Koran, but not to the detail of Memorizing, It is not that easy.. It needs 7 Years of Study to Memorize Nook and Corner of Koraan..
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
I understand your Frustration Iyer, you are unable to digest the FOOT BALL. That's OK... Anyways, if you firmly beleive that VEDAS are from GOD, then you have no Rights to Manipulate according to your Convenience.. This is the Bottom Line....
RE:FOOT BALL
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
No Dear Ibrahim. I am not frustrated. U r frustrated. U have neither read Quran nor Gita nor Vedas. Do u even know how many chapters r there in Quran or Gita??????
