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ATTENTION ANAND...
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 07:21 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Dear Anand Islam is indeed a UNIVERSAL RELIGION for all Human Beings...

1) Before answering to your question, answer mine, if Hinduism is a Universal Religion, why no Avatar is born outside India ??? All your 330 Million Gods, Born, Lived and Died in India.. Do you mean to say that Hinduism is limited to the Borders of India ?? If it is true then why Vishnu is called Jagannath....

2) Now the Direct answer, it is clearly mentioned in the Koran that, there are Prophets send for all Civilizations to tell the Message of One God to every corner of the Globe..

3) Muslim Priests beleive that there are 1,42,000 Prophets till date send to various parts of the World for telling the Message to People..

4) Some Schools of Islam beleive that Shri Ram, Krishna are the Prophets of One God.. and they put forward the Truth, but People like you have Misinterpreted Vedas and started beleiving in the Creations and Forgeting about the Creator..

Hope it answers, if you have more doubts let us debate, I am fully loaded to deleiver...

Ibrahim...


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  RE:RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 16, 2007 07:27 PM   Permalink
MY DEAR IBRAHIM.

ONE OF THE AUTHORITIES WHICH IS A PART OF VEDAS AND UPANISHADS "SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM" says "KRISHNA" is PARAMATMA UNDERSTAND.....

SO AS U SAID IF U FOLLOW VEDAS THEN KRISHA IS THE SOLE AUTHORITY....

KRISHNA IS NOT A PROPHET BUT GOD IN HIMSELF.

WHICH IS ALSO SAID IN BHAGAVAD GITA...

UNDERSTAND....

PUT IT IN YOUR DIRTY BRAINS AND CLEANSE IT...

IF YOU HAVE EVER SAID THAT ISLAM FOLLOWS VEDAS....



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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 07:36 PM   Permalink
Dear Santhosh,
Dont confuse between a Creator and His Creations... According to the Vedas, the God is One and He has no Form....

Read the Vedas

It is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita
He who knows Me as the unborn, as the beginning-less, as the Supreme Lord of all the worlds.
(Bhagwad Geeta 10:3)

YAJURVEDA
Vedas are the most sacred amongst all the Hindu Scriptures. There are principally 4 Vedas: Rig Ved, Yajur Ved, Sam Ved, and Atharva Ved.

i. Yajurveda Chapter 32, Verse 3

It is mentioned in Yajurveda
na tasya pratima asti
There is no image of Him


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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 16, 2007 07:38 PM   Permalink
BUT DONT IGNORE THAT HE HAS ALSO SAID

I AM GOD FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE ME IN THE FORM

ALSO SRIMAD BHAGAVATAM ENDORSES THE FACT .......
IF YOU DONT THEN READ AND THEN COME BACK OK

FULLY LOAD YOURSELF AND THEN COME BACK

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DONT UNDERSTAND AND THEN TALK

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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  RE:RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 07:56 PM   Permalink
So you are CONTRADICTING
. Yajurveda Chapter 32, Verse 3

It is mentioned in Yajurveda
na tasya pratima asti
There is no image of Him

Now you tell me which is True.. Yajur Veda says that there is no Image of God and Gita is saying there is FORM. Which is right ????

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  RE:RE:RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Knight Knight on May 17, 2007 03:23 AM   Permalink
You idiot it doesn't matter who is right because those who have written these books or believe in it doesn't kill each other to prove their point.

It is the Muslims who kill non-muslims to prove their point, need 28 books to understand a single book Quran.

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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 07:39 PM   Permalink
1.About the fourth point-let mme have details. quite an intersting point u have told me.
2.Your first point has no meaning. It can be equally asked why Muhammad and all Caliphs of Islam were born only in Arabia and not other parts of the world. The Indian religious books do not contain any verses like the ones in Quran which I pointed out today morning. In fact vedas say "Sarve janakha sukhino bhavantu" and "vasudaiva kutumbakam". U can see that recently Us State senate satrted with Rig Veda prayers. That is sufficient to speak about universalism of hindu religion.
3)Regarding second and third points-tell me why does not God send a Prophet once and for all and send the perfect knowledge which is true for all times to come? Why he keeps on sending so many Prophets? Now why does he need to take "the revealation to a Prophet" route instaed of better foolproof methods? In fact, this Prophet concept is a political concept. Both Moses and Muhammad used it for political purposes. See what Anwar Sheikh writes in www.Islam-watch.org Learn to read viewpoints contrary to your own and evaluate them. God has also given u reasoning. Use it.

If u carefully go through all scriptures of all religions, u will find lot of things which indicate that they r not Divine Revealations. So the best approch is that everyone take good things from all scriptures, implement them and be done with it. Don't quarrel among one another that mine is the perfect religion.
See websites
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/www.skepticsannotatedquran.com. Now all religious books r coming under scanner of rationalists. Visit also www.mukto-mona.com Study these contrary opinions.

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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Knight Knight on May 17, 2007 03:10 AM   Permalink
There was time when accross the world human used to roam around as tribes fighting for their survival with mother nature and wondering is there anyone who controls them and eveything else. They wondered who has created them or all the other things on planet. Then they started worshipping anything or everything which they thought affected their lives. They became Pagans.

Now, a gentleman named "Jesus" was born and he got confused with praying to so many gods and declared himself as Son of a solo universal God and asked his followers to spread the good news.

Now, another gentleman born in a pagan family and named Mohammad was born. He also like Jesus was born in a world where freedom to pactice religion of ones choice existed.

He heard the good news and wanted some modification because of the Arabic(i.e. Barbaric) culture he grew up in. When he tried to spread his own version of good news(like christians), he was ridiculed and might have been kicked in the ass.

So he thought that lets spread it Arab way and one fine day said that Angel Gabriel has told him to spread Islam with a Sword meaning who so ever doesn't believe in his story should be killed, his wives and children be taken as slaves as it is legitimate according to God.

And so started the Religion of Islam, spread by killers,perverts and daciots because they saw a very good oppurtunity to loot people because Islam gave them the liberty to fullfil all of their criminal apetite.

These people have wreacked havoc everywhere they went and still are shameless enough to say that their religion stands for peace and try to find faults in other religion.

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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 16, 2007 07:27 PM   Permalink
BUT TELL ME ONE THING
WHAT ARE YOU LOADED WITH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  RE:RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 07:36 PM   Permalink
Loaded with TRUTH which is bitter for Hypocrites and Sweet for the Beleivers...

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  RE:RE:RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Santosh Ramkrishnan on May 16, 2007 07:42 PM   Permalink
SO U USE YOUR FINGER TO SMELL OR TASTE THE TRUTH

HAHAHAHAHAHA



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  RE:ATTENTION ANAND...
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 07:53 PM   Permalink
Laugh My dear, I am not De-motivated... I am just Propogating the TRUTH.. I am just doing my Duty...

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by USN Kashyap on May 17, 2007 06:26 PM   Permalink
Ibrahim, what you believe-in is Loaded with blood and gore, rape and plunder, of course, spread over 14 centuries, ever since it was born. Sands of arabia it was born-in, sands of arabia it would be burried in-to. In the meantime the price that the presentday Mo's will be paying for the sins of their ancestors would be terrible, terrible indeed. You are a totally brainwashed moron like any of those suicide bombers of 911. You are convinced that you would be rewarded with 72 virgins and 20 young boys in your jannat when you die in the cause of 'slam. You have been drugged totally. There appears to be pleasure in your world of make-believe, in your world of hallucination, like being in a voodoo trance. All your life your ears have been dinned with the message of MNO being God and EFG is His despatchrider. You guys are sickening even when you serve the cause of being a specimen of what one should not ever be. God knows how many more innocent humanbeings you will be killing and how many it would take to satiate your hunger for killing the innocents.

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