Some of the posts suggests that these people have done their studies only for earning..... and NOT FOR LEARNING.
Please.... understand that.... Proper Study of Humanities and Society only can bring back the peace and Order which we have lost from our Lives.
Be it Bahadur Shah Zafar or Muslims or any Hindu leaders all fought against the British Evils and oppressions. and finally won the war of Independence under the wise Leadership of Congress (Gabdhi,Nehru, Azad etc).
It is the Anti-national elements like RSS and Co. which have been doing harms in society now. Then also they(mahasabha) conspired Brits.
These are actually Brahamanism tactics which were used to bring back the old Evil oppressive Power and Pride which Brahmins lost in 11 th Century to Muslims..
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by prashant kalantri on May 10, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
it is known fact that all muslims are not terrorists, but it is also known fact that all terrorists are muslim.
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by amit jaiswal on May 14, 2007 03:04 PM Permalink
From all above posts...its crystal clear that whatever brits wanted before leaving India is getting fulfilled by us...we r doing exactly whatever they thought to be done by us...its so clear and visible...they have successfully divided us...gr8 going guys...keep it up.
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by mohammed sahim ahmed on May 14, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
this one media-coined sentence does not make u a learned man. in fact it shows ur ignorance.
Todays LTTE and Naxals and IRA militants are not muslims. isnt it??????
In the past, George washington of US.... and Bhagat Singh and Subhash chandra Bose .. all were called Terrorists.... but u know the truth.
actually they were having a fighting spirit against injustices like The Muslims always had and today also they have.
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by Shankar Panday on May 10, 2007 03:47 AM Permalink
British were a colonial power. Its bad we were enslaved by the British. But bear in mind that at the coming of the British India were practically under the control of Hindu & Sikh except for NW, Bengal, UP and parts of Deccan. None of the Muslim rulers presented any opposition except for Tipu Sultan. Islamic rule was evil and backward.
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by daniel on May 10, 2007 08:15 AM Permalink
what absolute rubbish! are these replies just posted for the sake of it? please dont criticize each other with proof and knowledge. whats the base for example with which shankar pandey has said no muslim rulers presented any opposition and what is he trying to imply? the 1857 mutiny had majority muslim component. Its an established fact in history books. so is Mr.shankar trying to imply?
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by Ramprakash Naidu on May 10, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
Hi All, Whatever happened has happened, we cannot and shouldnot judge the past with present knowledge and time, it will be grossly wrong. Everybody has his plus and minuses and every religion has its own points, according the societys it evolved in and the geographical areas it applied to......there is no universally correct religion.....pls understand this and refrain from hate comments on other religions and digging up old unnecessary issues....Jai Hind.
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by amjad ansari on May 10, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
It has been long acuisation against ISLAM that it has reached "EAST TO WEST" due to Force and conversion: Well let us explore the truth whether it is or not. According to Qur'an adam & Eve, Noah and other revealed Prophets & Avatar are Muslim who preached subbmission to Allah/God. If we are educated and studied the history then we should accept that earlier ( Medival Age or pre Christ era) was the era of Kings & Emporers, who had the sole right to do whatever s/he would like to do with the losers. Islam has came to save the humanity from Idol Worship and the oppressed people like , Dalits, Women, Blacks and etc etc. If my memory serves me in the right way then I must write that in India Muslims Ruled almost for 1000 years and still MUSLIMS are in minority.If they would have forced ( which No one would dare to oppose ) every one india now will be MUSLIM, even in Malaysia & Indonesia Muslims ruled, but with out any use of SWORD. Their majority is MUSLIM. Have you ever tried to think why so many religons has came out of Hinduism ? just because Hindu religion itself has the discrimination among the People but ISLAM Said that you are all "EQUALL" In Bhagwat Gita when Arjun refuse to fight against kauravas, Krishna encourage Arjun to fight even though they are your brother , if you wat to go to paradise : Chapter 2 Verse 31-35. Here I strongly believe that Kauravas are hindus too. Duryudhana even tries to molest "PANCHALI" You should be ever greatful to Islam which break the chain of Opression and unjust.I wish to remind the whole Hindu Intellet that Not Islam But Christians(So called Peace loving people)who attacked whole world and spread terrorism. Who is Hitler, Stalin, Massilon, who started the world war 1 & 2????. who invited Mohd of Ghazni & Mohd Gauri? Which religion stops dalit to enter the Temple ? Do ISLAM prevent any Poor or Rish muslim to enter Masjid? all are equal in form of Allah. Could you please let us know to Improve our Knowledge which practical Muslim ruler Raped Hindu/Christian Women? Which Practical Muslim ruler supported Mass Murder of innocent People? If fighting for Justice & for Noble cause breaking the opression of poorer people is terrorism then we should be proud to be a terrorist. When Hitler started killing thre jews whole Germany was supporting him , same like whole Gujrat ( Except handful of Hindus) was sopported MODI in 2002 anti Muslim riots. ISLAM does not permit riot ( Quran says : Kill the rioters whether he is Muslim or Non muslim) why have ypou forget the Role of Ulema's in Freedom struggle ? Muslim was the first to struggle with British, Name of few is ( Chand BIBI, Saiyid Ahmed in 1831. Yahya Ali, Ahmadullah, Amiruddin, Ibrahim Mandal, And Rafique Mandal. Beacause of few muslim you cannot blame whole religion. if that is the case we are proud to be the followers of Peace Loving religion called ISLAM. Since Christians are the one who enslaved whole world till 20th Century. I applogise if anyone's religious sentiments hurted.
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by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on May 09, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
Absolute trash. What has Brahminism as you call it to with it. Islam is most suspected religion in view of its past and present actions against non-muslims. You are trying to write a history. Brahminism is not oppressive as you are calling. Islam was cetainly was. Brahminism, if you prefer to call,paved way for Buddhism, Jainism, Music, art, sculputre, beautiful philosophies, kavyas etc. Waht did Islamism create. Murder, rape, plunder, terror. Wake up. How did Muslim countries formed? with love!!
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by Ibrahim Sheik on May 09, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
Dear Buddhi Raju, Why are you trying to hide the 5000 Years of Opression on Shudras... According to Vedas, Shudras are created from the Feet of God and Brahmin is created from the Head of God... The caste system in India is eliminated only after the arrival of Semitic Religions, otherwise still India would have been in the Deep Clutches of Un-Touchability and attrocities... YOu can win a country by Compulsion but you cannot Win the Hearts of People by compulsion.. Islam melted the Hearts of Millions in the World... If your Theory of Violence and rape is true means, do you want to say that Your Grand Mothers were hiding in caves for 1000 years of Muslim rule in India ?? and you retained Hinduism ??? What a joke, every Hindu in India is a witness that there was no compulsion in Islam...
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by Shankar Panday on May 10, 2007 03:51 AM Permalink
Hindus dont go blindly by according to this and that..only Muslims do that these days Ibrahim sahab. Hinduism is a religion that evolves - the Vedas are eternal knowledge but are not to be taken as a Quranic verse which when it asks you to kill, u just go and kill the kafir. The Semitic religions hijacked God. Indias caste problem is not unique, but all ancient societies go through evolution. HIndus dont hv to get stuck in caste at all. At the end of the day the eternal truths of Hinduism comes up and that has nothing to do with caste or birth. Btw the class disparity among Muslims is far greater than in Hindus, because Muslims society is purely feudal.
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by Aurijit Sarkar on May 10, 2007 02:33 AM Permalink
you really have to wake up, don't you, Ibrahim? I'm not saying that every muslim believes in those barbaric ideals, but history doesn't need to be rewritten to know that conversions were rampant during muslim invasions! even some Mughal Emperors openly endorsed forced conversions..
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by Prithvi Paul on May 09, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
No don't say that Ibrahim,Islam is the only religion which has destroyed India ,and all the muslims in Indian sub continent are hindus thats enough proof of tolerance and love ,BS its the religion which is based on rape , plunder and slaughter , your fore fathers were converted with force period. even today look at all muslim majority countries , non muslims are treated very badly and no rights. So muslims were responsible and as to 1857 , with destruction and slavery for 800 years that probably was due , but needed some more blood and non stop violence against English , if Indians had revolted against muslims , which in history they did but gave up , may be india should have tried freedom from islam ,even today we need freedom from islam or india will become muslim majority and there will be mass murders of non muslims so before they do this we need to do something very soon.
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by archana on May 10, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
Go through the history of Kashmir,there was a compulsion of Islam in Kashmir,all temples were tuned into mosques, hundreds of temples were destroyed.Kashmiri pandits were forced to adopt Islam, the biggest example is the temple priest of famous temple now called Shah Hamdan was forced to become Muslim. Who r muslims, Hindus who were forced to adopt Islam.
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by prashant kalantri on May 10, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
pl. check the history of your forefathers, if you have resources or guts to face the truth, you will come to know that your forefathers were from the great religion -hindu
